CuriousGeorge Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 When I was 6 years old, my parent took my Ba Zi and had my Four Pillars of Destiny chart written out for me.In it, it describes my future husband as handsome and kind hearted.Does Four Pillars have the ability to foresee something as specific as this? Or was the Master merely using his own experience and assuming that given that I am of Yin Metal I would attract a kind hearted temperament husband?What realistic limitations does Four Pillars have?Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Robert Lee Posted February 24, 2005 Staff Share Posted February 24, 2005 Dear Karen,Firstly, you should understand that fortune teller users several tools for to guess a persons fortune. Such tools are ba zi, palm reading, face reading, horoscope, i-ching etc.A good fortune teller with lots of experience, also uses their experience to be able to guess how is the person's character by observing that person's behaviour. That is why when you want your fortune told you must see the person face to face. Most of the predictions comes from the master's own experience and judgement. So ba zi is just one of the tools that a fortune teller will attempt to make use. And ba zi has two aspect understanding a person's given luck for use in Feng Shui as well as some fortune telling portions.In our website, we do not do any fortune telling, this includes adding any of such fortune telling aspects into our analysis. This is because, fortune telling can be dangerous and often it is because the person receiving the advise believes so much in the fortune teller, that the person makes it happen. ie if a fortune teller tells you that you are a jinx, and because of that you are so worried about it, that you will make it happen.As such all fortune telling aspects are just fortune telling. The only good thing about ba zi is it helps to depict a person's heavenly given luck. This is what we call the Heavenly Luck. A person's fortune and fate is often said as pre-destined. As such, the ba zi is supposed to be able to help one understand what kind of luck you might have. But such luck may or may not happen depending on how is your environment (Earth Luck).So the only good thing about the ba zi is the ability to understand what kind of luck you are given, what elements you belong to, how you may attempt to maximise the luck etc. Once you know that, you can then attempt to make your Earth Luck more suitable for your given luck so as to get the best amount of luck for yourself.So the main limitation is that ba zi only tells you what luck you are supposed to have. It may or may not be exactly the same all depends on your surrounding factors.Hope that helps.Warmest RegardsRobert LeeGEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research Quote On 2/24/2005 6:29:18 AM, Anonymous wrote:When I was 6 years old, myparent took my Ba Zi and hadmy Four Pillars of Destinychart written out for me.In it, it describes my futurehusband as handsome and kindhearted.Does Four Pillars have theability to foresee somethingas specific as this? Or wasthe Master merely using hisown experience and assumingthat given that I am of YinMetal I would attract a kindhearted temperament husband?What realistic limitationsdoes Four Pillars have?Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousGeorge Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Robert,Thank you very much for that clear explanation! It makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. Four Pillars merely indicates what sort of heavenly luck one can expect given the combination of heavenly stems and earthly branches that influence a period in time.Sorry to sound obsessive and/or aggressive, but I've spent some time in trying to understand Four Pillars. Just one more question?My investigation has revealed that my Day Heavenly Stem is Yin Metal and Year Earthly Branch is Monkey. My lucky element is fire. My romantic star is Rooster.How do my Four Pillar components affect my relationship with somebody who has Yang Fire in his Day Heavenly Stem, Snake in his Year Earthly Branch, no other Heavenly Stem-Earthly Branch clashes/attractions, and has metal as a lucky element?If the element that represents me, metal, is that also my Companion Star? How does my Companion Star affect my relationships?Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I'm just trying to gain a better understanding of what's going on in my life. javascript:emoticon('')javascript:emoticon('')-Karen Quote On 2/24/2005 8:21:46 PM, Anonymous wrote:Dear Karen,Firstly, you should understandthat fortune teller usersseveral tools for to guess apersons fortune. Such toolsare ba zi, palm reading, facereading, horoscope, i-chingetc.A good fortune teller withlots of experience, also usestheir experience to be able toguess how is the person'scharacter by observing thatperson's behaviour. That iswhy when you want your fortunetold you must see the personface to face. Most of thepredictions comes from themaster's own experience andjudgement.So ba zi is just one of thetools that a fortune tellerwill attempt to make use. Andba zi has two aspectunderstanding a person's givenluck for use in Feng Shui aswell as some fortune tellingportions.In our website, we do not doany fortune telling, thisincludes adding any of suchfortune telling aspects intoour analysis. This is because,fortune telling can bedangerous and often it isbecause the person receivingthe advise believes so much inthe fortune teller, that theperson makes it happen. ie ifa fortune teller tells youthat you are a jinx, andbecause of that you are soworried about it, that youwill make it happen.As such all fortune tellingaspects are just fortunetelling. The only good thingabout ba zi is it helps todepict a person's heavenlygiven luck. This is what wecall the Heavenly Luck. Aperson's fortune and fate isoften said as pre-destined. Assuch, the ba zi is supposed tobe able to help one understandwhat kind of luck you mighthave. But such luck may or maynot happen depending on how isyour environment (Earth Luck).So the only good thing aboutthe ba zi is the ability tounderstand what kind of luckyou are given, what elementsyou belong to, how you mayattempt to maximise the lucketc. Once you know that, youcan then attempt to make yourEarth Luck more suitable foryour given luck so as to getthe best amount of luck foryourself.So the main limitation is thatba zi only tells you what luckyou are supposed to have. Itmay or may not be exactly thesame all depends on yoursurrounding factors.Hope that helps.Warmest RegardsRobertLeeGEOMANCY.NET - Center forApplied Feng Shui ResearchOn 2/24/2005 6:29:18 AM, Karen Shumwrote:>When I was 6 years old,my>parent took my Ba Zi and had>myFour Pillars of Destiny>chart writtenout for me.>>In it, it describesmy future>husband as handsome andkind>hearted.>>Does FourPillars have the>ability to foreseesomething>as specific as this? Or was>the Master merely usinghis>own experience andassuming>that given that I am ofYin>Metal I would attract akind>hearted temperamenthusband?>>What realisticlimitations>does Four Pillarshave?>>Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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