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Dear Masters,


First of all, I would like to express my utmost appreciation to you and your very informative and helpful web-site. Especially for those of us who are not able to read Chinese, this web-site is akin to a Godsend.


I have tried the free reports and calculators here and also some from other web-sites and yes, noticed a difference in the Month pillar more often than not. And a check through the Forum explained the cause of the difference, so that confusion was cleared.


However, for one of the checks DOB: 5 July 1976, 7.30pm, the free report generated showed that he (yes, it is a male) an Earth Dragon but many Chinese horoscopes indicates that the year 1976 is the year of the Fire Dragon. Why is it different? The report does indicate that the person is of Strong YangEarth element. But surely, it does not mean that his horoscope is Earth Dragon, yes?


From the free report generated, it shows that he does not have any Metal in his 4 pillars. As such, in order to bring about balance to the elements, it would be best if he dresses in white most of the time? Also, in the 5 elements, I understand that the Metal element concerns children. If the person is severely lacking in the Metal element, does it mean that he will need to have children or have more children in order to bring about a balance?


If the above queries are deemed absurd, I beg forgiveness. Any clarification would be most appreciated.


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Dear Blue Chocs,


blue chocs wrote:
First of all, I would like to express my utmost appreciation to you and your very informative and helpful web-site. Especially for those of us who are not able to read Chinese, this web-site is akin to a Godsend.

Glad you enjoy our website


blue chocs wrote:
However, for one of the checks DOB: 5 July 1976, 7.30pm, the free report generated showed that he (yes, it is a male) an Earth Dragon but many Chinese horoscopes indicates that the year 1976 is the year of the Fire Dragon. Why is it different? The report does indicate that the person is of Strong YangEarth element. But surely, it does not mean that his horoscope is Earth Dragon, yes?

Actually, if you only focus on the year 1976 is a Fire Dragon. So this is generally correct if you consider the year of birth.


But what you need to know is that for every year, depending on which day you are born, there can be a water / wood / fire / earth / metal person born in the Fire Dragon year.


In the case of the DOB: 5 Jul 1976, this person is born on the Earth day, and after all the elements were calculated, it is determined to be a Strong Earth. Therefore, it is more accurate to say that this person is a Strong Earth born in the Fire Dragon year. So his base element would be a Strong Earth.


blue chocs wrote:
From the free report generated, it shows that he does not have any Metal in his 4 pillars. As such, in order to bring about balance to the elements, it would be best if he dresses in white most of the time? Also, in the 5 elements, I understand that the Metal element concerns children. If the person is severely lacking in the Metal element, does it mean that he will need to have children or have more children in order to bring about a balance?

We normally go by two ways to define which is the elements a person lack. The basic way is:-


1. As a Strong Earth, it means this person is strong Earth because:-


a) Eitherthis personhas too much Earth


b) Or this person has too much Fire


c) Or this person has too much Fire and Earth


Therefore, asa Strong Earth, his favourable elements would be Metal/Water/Wood elements in general.


If you go into more deeper analysis, then you need to consider the balance of the five element. ie what is the percentage of each of the element. This will more clearly show you what element is most preferred.


The ideal would be to have exactly 20% of each of the five element to be in perfect harmony. So whatever elements is less than 20% will mean he lacks too little of it. Whatever element is over 20% is too much so should avoid.


For example if the percentage of Metal (10%) / Water (0%) / Wood (30%). This means that for this Strong Earth, Water is his most favourable element, Metal is next, while Wood is more than enough. So this person won't benefit from having more Wood. Therfore, his most favourable element would be Water, followed by Metal.


So when you know the exact percentage breakdown, you will be able to fine tune exactly which element is lacking most, and which one should avoid.


Once you understand that, you then need to know that five element can be related to career/colours/direction/shapes etc. You can refer to this link:-


URL: http://talk.geomancy.net


So colours is just one of the way to add more of the element's a person lack. The other is by house facing, suitable career, even people around you etc. The more in your favour, the better your overall luck.


Hope that helps.


Warmest Regards
Robert Lee
GEOMANCY.NET - Center for Applied Feng Shui Research


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