myfs_146565 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Quote On 9/30/2010 3:14:47 PM, Anonymous wrote: Dear Master, I need your help to confirm is my toilet at the center of my house? If so, can I use it occasionally, or I totally cannot use it at all? If I am not the one using it, but I am staying in the house, will myluck be affected? Thank you very much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted September 30, 2010 Staff Share Posted September 30, 2010 These are some of the considerations.1. See attachment: Yes, BOTH toilets are considered as within (boundary) of the TWO toilets (Upper and Lower).2. Luck normally depends on:-2.1. How suitable the home is to breadwinner.2.2. External Shapes and Forms2.3. Flying Star Facing directions:2.3.1 Better facing directions in GENERAL are NE, SW and South.2.3.2 Especially for next year: depending on the consideration of the facing direction; one of the nastiest facing directions NEXT year is EAST. North ain't that pretty either..3. The concept of "You stay there we (geomancers) don't".3.1. Frankly, it is so easy to write a few lines and "command you" not to use your toilets! But, don't be foolish like many people who were told that they must never use their toilet!3.2. Look at it this way, how many homes have their toilet outside of their community?3.3. Even a EUNCH needs to pass motion and water!4. Isn't it crazy to say DON'T use that (British term: BLOODY) toilet, please!5. Usually in order to have major issues; a home often has more than 3 or more "leaks". Thus both toilets can be considered as ONE leak.Fix-the-Leak, First!6. No use in banging one's head pointlessly against the wall. The more sensible approach???The Concept of Maximizing Marks7. Many apartments do have a toilet (or toilets) at the centrepoint. As mentioned above, other factors include what was mentioned under Para 2. above. Quote On 9/30/2010 5:07:04 PM, Anonymous wrote:On 9/30/2010 3:14:47 PM, Rachel chengwrote: Dear Master, I need your help toconfirm is my toilet at the center of myhouse? If so, can I use it occasionally,or I totally cannot use it at all? If Iam not the one using it, but I amstaying in the house, will myluckbe affected? Thank you very much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_146565 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Dear Master, thank youfor your advice. I have read in some books that the centrepointof a house can be more accurately determined by finding out the centre of gravity, e.g. cut outthefloorplan from a cardboard, poke one edge with a pin, let it hang and draw the centre line, repeat with 2 other edges; the point of intersection will be the centre of gravity,hence the centrepoint.If I were to use this method for my house, the centrepoint will shift left towards the living room, out of the boundary of the toilet. This ismainly because to the right of the toiletlies the aircon ledge, which is an open space and hence notconsidered part of the livable space.Would you be so kind toassess/explain whether this view is correct?RegardsRachel's Husband,Kauwee Quote On 9/30/2010 5:23:30 PM, Anonymous wrote:These are some of the considerations.1.See attachment: Yes, BOTH toilets areconsidered as within (boundary) of theTWO toilets (Upper and Lower).2. Lucknormally depends on:-2.1. How suitablethe home is to breadwinner.2.2. ExternalShapes and Forms2.3. Flying Star Facingdirections:2.3.1 Better facingdirections in GENERAL are NE, SW andSouth.2.3.2 Especially for next year:depending on the consideration of thefacing direction; one of the nastiestfacing directions NEXT year is EAST.North ain't that pretty either..3. Theconcept of "You stay there we(geomancers) don't".3.1. Frankly, it isso easy to write a few lines and"command you" not to use your toilets!But, don't be foolish like many peoplewho were told that they must never usetheir toilet!3.2. Look at it this way,how many homes have their toilet outsideof their community?3.3. Even a EUNCHneeds to pass motion and water!4. Isn'tit crazy to say DON'T use that (Britishterm: BLOODY) toilet, please!5. Usuallyin order to have major issues; a homeoften has more than 3 or more "leaks".Thus both toilets can be considered asONE leak.Fix-the-Leak, First!6. No usein banging one's head pointlesslyagainst the wall. The more sensibleapproach???The Concept of MaximizingMarks7. Many apartments do have a toilet(or toilets) at the centrepoint. Asmentioned above, other factors includewhat was mentioned under Para 2.above.On 9/30/2010 5:07:04 PM, Rachelcheng wrote:On 9/30/2010 3:14:47PM, Rachel chengwrote: Dear Master,I need your help toconfirm is mytoilet at the center of myhouse? Ifso, can I use it occasionally,or Itotally cannot use it at all? If Iam not the one using it, but I amstaying in the house, willmyluckbe affected? Thank youvery much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted September 30, 2010 Staff Share Posted September 30, 2010 A. Please check out the link or many past messages or even my past resources on this subject, below:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do a search for either center of gravity or centre of gravity.The message in the above link says it all:-1. The significance of missing corner or protusion can be found here:-http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-building.htm2. Please refer to attachment: Illustration 1.2.1 Usually, I use the "eye-ball" method to determine the "largest" WHOLE rectangle. This is a quick method to ROUGHLY determine the centrepoint or center-of-gravity of the apartment.2.2 NOTE: Please note that the protusion in YELLOW under Illustration 1 is NOT correct. As mentioned above, it is just a rough guide.2.3 In fact, I don't draw out such an illustration. But for the purpose of learning in this forum; I did this quick sketch.3. After mentally knowing where is the ROUGH centerpoint or center-of-gravity, I will start to plot a more accurate outline to determine a more accurate centrepoint (all using the "eye-ball" method).4. When I roughly get the area of the SUM of Missing corners roughly equal to the SUM of protusions; see attachment: Illustration 2; then I will feel confident that I am pretty close to getting the centrepoing correct.5. For those of you, you can also: copy a layout plan; paste it on a cardboard. Cut-out the outline and balance it on a nail. The place where the nail balances the entire layout plan should be the centre of gravity. However, as I mentioned, I am using the "eye-ball" method.6. Therefore, based on a quick determination: refer to Illustration 2, yes the toilet (close to the basin) is at the centerpoint. ==== END OF CUT-PASTE========B. The term "garbage-in-garbage out" still applies to BOTH the above ROUGH determination via eye-ball method or the cut-out.C. Why?C1. What makes this layout plan unique is that the area of missing corner can never be equal to the area of protusion.C2. Thus, just imagine you cut-out the entire area including say the PROTUSION. If so, of course, you will be very happy or elated to find that the center of gravity is not at the toilet area.C3. Anyway, one good news is that even with the "eye-ball" method I had mentioned, your centerpoint (not necessarily) the center of gravity is actually on a wall dividing between your toilet and your corridor area.C4. When it comes to psychology; if it makes both of you elated or happy to discover your centre of gravity is not at the main entrance then, it is fine.D. Here the "eye ball" method as mentioned in the above previous forum message clearly state that it is ROUGH method. D1. And usually, it can be very accurate if say the area of missing corner roughly equals to the area of protusion. D2. What you are using is to find the center-of-gravity. Although both it and centerpoint seems similar; usually it should be close-by. Unless it depends on how one cut-out the layout plan. Here, I am sure you added the non-living space i.e. the protusion aka the balcony area. It is subjective. But, hey, you can rejoice, now. Quote On 9/30/2010 10:47:26 PM, Anonymous wrote:Dear Master, thank youfor youradvice. I have read in some books thatthe centrepointof a house can bemore accurately determined by findingout the centre of gravity, e.g. cutoutthefloorplan from acardboard, poke one edge with a pin, letit hang and draw the centre line, repeatwith 2 other edges; the point ofintersection will be the centre ofgravity,hence the centrepoint.If Iwere to use this method for my house,the centrepoint will shift left towardsthe living room, out of the boundary ofthe toilet. This ismainly becauseto the right of the toiletlies theaircon ledge, which is an open space andhence notconsidered part of thelivable space.Would you be so kindtoassess/explain whether this viewis correct?RegardsRachel'sHusband,KauweeOn 9/30/2010 5:23:30 PM,Cecil Lee wrote:These are some ofthe considerations.1.Seeattachment: Yes, BOTH toilets areconsidered as within (boundary) oftheTWO toilets (Upper and Lower).2.Lucknormally depends on:-2.1. Howsuitablethe home is tobreadwinner.2.2. ExternalShapes andForms2.3. Flying Star Facingdirections:2.3.1 Better facingdirections in GENERAL are NE, SW andSouth.2.3.2 Especially for nextyear:depending on the considerationof thefacing direction; one of thenastiestfacing directions NEXT yearis EAST.North ain't that prettyeither..3. Theconcept of "You staythere we(geomancers) don't".3.1.Frankly, it isso easy to write afew lines and"command you" not touse your toilets!But, don't befoolish like many peoplewho weretold that they must never usetheirtoilet!3.2. Look at it this way,howmany homes have their toilet outsideof their community?3.3. Even a EUNCHneeds to pass motion and water!4.Isn'tit crazy to say DON'T use that(Britishterm: BLOODY) toilet,please!5. Usuallyin order to havemajor issues; a homeoften has morethan 3 or more "leaks".Thus bothtoilets can be considered asONEleak.Fix-the-Leak, First!6. No usein banging one's head pointlesslyagainst the wall. The more sensibleapproach???The Concept of MaximizingMarks7. Many apartments do have atoilet(or toilets) at thecentrepoint. Asmentioned above,other factors includewhat wasmentioned under Para 2.above.On9/30/2010 5:07:04 PM, Rachelchengwrote:On 9/30/2010 3:14:47PM,Rachel chengwrote: Dear Master,I need your help toconfirm ismytoilet at the center of myhouse? Ifso, can I use itoccasionally,or Itotallycannot use it at all? If Iamnot the one using it, but I amstaying in the house, willmyluckbe affected? Thankyouvery much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted September 30, 2010 Staff Share Posted September 30, 2010 Further to what I had mentioned, based on the Holy Trinity of Luck:-1. In fact, many are not born with a silver spoon. (via ba zi or Heaven Luck).2. The thought of having not so good Feng Shui (earth luck) sometimes; this area combined with Para 1; can lead to auto-suggestion, self-fullfilling prophecy. As well as make us feel not so good.3. Thus, another very important "tool" is Human or Man luck. For example, some people, don't have good heaven luck nor good Feng Shui luck; but they are very contented with having a good family relationship, bonding etc.. 4. Human or man luck should never be discounted; thus so long as both of you "feel good" or nice feeling; then it beats whether the center point or center of gravity is as written, in this book or that forum.5. Unfortnately, some shower their homes with useless products in the name of Feng Shui. But, hey! Again, if one feels good about spending money on some useless products; well go ahead! It is all about Human or man luck. (Plus, those sellers equally share the happiness with people. People become happy or feel happy perhaps with less money; while the sellers feel happy because they made huge profits6. Morale of the story is: "in fact, sometimes; it is even better to be ignorant about such things than to bang one's head or try to find some other explanation: to side-track the issue". Again, the result is based on "Garbage-in Garbage-out" G.I.G.O. sort of thing. 7. In addition; the importance of "You stay, there or going to stay there" vs us geomancers who if present, sometimes spent only 1 or 2 hours or slightly more at a home. And it is ridiculous to ask you guys not to use toilet A and/or toilet B! Those who provide such fantastic advice, should either plug their waste system with bottle corks or use cable tie. As mentioned; even Eunuchs need to go to the toilet.8. Frankly, the curse of the internet is: Info overload; fast food feng shui and the saying a little knowledge is a dangerous kinda of thingy! Quote On 9/30/2010 11:09:06 PM, Anonymous wrote:A. Please check out the linkor many past messages or evenmy past resources on thissubject,below:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do asearch for either center ofgravity or centre ofgravity.The message in theabove link says it all:-1. The significance of missingcorner or protusion can befound here:-http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-building.htm2. Please refer to attachment:Illustration 1.2.1 Usually, I use the"eye-ball" method to determinethe "largest" WHOLE rectangle.This is a quick method toROUGHLY determine thecentrepoint orcenter-of-gravity of theapartment.2.2 NOTE: Please note that theprotusion in YELLOW underIllustration 1 is NOT correct.As mentioned above, it is justa rough guide.2.3 In fact, I don't draw outsuch an illustration. But forthe purpose of learning inthis forum; I did this quicksketch.3. After mentally knowingwhere is the ROUGH centerpointor center-of-gravity, I willstart to plot a more accurateoutline to determine a moreaccurate centrepoint (allusing the "eye-ball" method).4. When I roughly get the areaof the SUM of Missing cornersroughly equal to the SUM ofprotusions; see attachment:Illustration 2; then I willfeel confident that I ampretty close to getting thecentrepoing correct.5. For those of you, you canalso: copy a layout plan;paste it on a cardboard.Cut-out the outline andbalance it on a nail. Theplace where the nail balancesthe entire layout plan shouldbe the centre of gravity.However, as I mentioned, I amusing the "eye-ball" method. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 1, 2010 Staff Share Posted October 1, 2010 1. Please see attachment.2. As the layout plan can distinctively be split roughly 50:50;3. Thus, the center of gravity and/or centerpoint should still be along the RED line. (OR close to it) or should not differ too much from that zone.The only thing is that it depends on how much of the balcony area one takes into consideration: to add or not to add it to say the "cut-out". Quote On 9/30/2010 11:09:06 PM, Anonymous wrote:A. Please check out the linkor many past messages or evenmy past resources on thissubject,below:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do asearch for either center ofgravity or centre ofgravity.The message in theabove link says it all:-1. The significance of missingcorner or protusion can befound here:-http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-building.htm2. Please refer to attachment:Illustration 1.2.1 Usually, I use the"eye-ball" method to determinethe "largest" WHOLE rectangle.This is a quick method toROUGHLY determine thecentrepoint orcenter-of-gravity of theapartment.2.2 NOTE: Please note that theprotusion in YELLOW underIllustration 1 is NOT correct.As mentioned above, it is justa rough guide.2.3 In fact, I don't draw outsuch an illustration. But forthe purpose of learning inthis forum; I did this quicksketch.3. After mentally knowingwhere is the ROUGH centerpointor center-of-gravity, I willstart to plot a more accurateoutline to determine a moreaccurate centrepoint (allusing the "eye-ball" method).4. When I roughly get the areaof the SUM of Missing cornersroughly equal to the SUM ofprotusions; see attachment:Illustration 2; then I willfeel confident that I ampretty close to getting thecentrepoing correct.5. For those of you, you canalso: copy a layout plan;paste it on a cardboard.Cut-out the outline andbalance it on a nail. Theplace where the nail balancesthe entire layout plan shouldbe the centre of gravity.However, as I mentioned, I amusing the "eye-ball" method. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 1, 2010 Staff Share Posted October 1, 2010 I always keep in mind this phase "You stay there (YOUR HOME); We (Geomancers) don't!"Just imagine, someone coming to your home; and provide the "weirdest" advice like: don't use your master toilet! Completely shut it down.. sort of thing! Is this for real?The Geomancer will happily go off with your fees and if you do listen to such advice; saddled with the inconvenience and "issue" for the rest of your life whilst living in that home! Quote On 10/1/2010 12:01:02 AM, Anonymous wrote:1. Please see attachment.2. As thelayout plan can distinctively be splitroughly 50:50;3. Thus, the center ofgravity and/or centerpoint should stillbe along the RED line. (OR close to it)or should not differ too much from thatzone.The only thing is that itdepends on how much of the balcony areaone takes into consideration: to add ornot to add it to say the "cut-out".On9/30/2010 11:09:06 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:A. Please check out the linkormany past messages or evenmy pastresources on thissubject,below:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do asearch for either center ofgravity or centre ofgravity.Themessage in theabove link says itall:-1. The significance of missingcorner or protusion can befoundhere:-http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-building.htm2. Please refer toattachment:Illustration 1.2.1Usually, I use the"eye-ball" methodto determinethe "largest" WHOLErectangle.This is a quick method toROUGHLY determine thecentrepoint orcenter-of-gravityof theapartment.2.2 NOTE:Please note that theprotusion inYELLOW underIllustration 1 is NOTcorrect.As mentioned above, it isjusta rough guide.2.3 In fact,I don't draw outsuch anillustration. But forthe purpose oflearning inthis forum; I did thisquicksketch.3. After mentallyknowingwhere is the ROUGHcenterpointor center-of-gravity, Iwillstart to plot a more accurateoutline to determine a moreaccurate centrepoint (allusingthe "eye-ball" method).4. When Iroughly get the areaof the SUM ofMissing cornersroughly equal to theSUM ofprotusions; see attachment:Illustration 2; then I willfeelconfident that I ampretty close togetting thecentrepoing correct.5. For those of you, you canalso: copy a layout plan;pasteit on a cardboard.Cut-out theoutline andbalance it on a nail.Theplace where the nail balancesthe entire layout plan shouldbethe centre of gravity.However, as Imentioned, I amusing the "eye-ball"method. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_146565 Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Dear Master, thank you for the comprehensive explanations, coupled with good-natured humour! Quote On 10/1/2010 3:56:12 PM, Anonymous wrote:I always keep in mind this phase "Youstay there (YOUR HOME); We (Geomancers)don't!"Just imagine, someone coming toyour home; and provide the "weirdest"advice like: don't use your mastertoilet! Completely shut it down.. sortof thing! Is this for real?The Geomancerwill happily go off with your fees andif you do listen to such advice; saddledwith the inconvenience and "issue" forthe rest of your life whilst living inthat home!On 10/1/2010 12:01:02 AM,Cecil Lee wrote:1. Please seeattachment.2. As thelayout plan candistinctively be splitroughly50:50;3. Thus, the center ofgravityand/or centerpoint should stillbealong the RED line. (OR close to it)or should not differ too much fromthatzone.The only thing isthat itdepends on how much of thebalcony areaone takes intoconsideration: to add ornot to addit to say the "cut-out".On9/30/201011:09:06 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:A.Please check out the linkormany past messages or evenmypastresources on thissubject,below:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do asearch for either center ofgravity or centre ofgravity.Themessage in theabove link says itall:-1.The significance of missingcorner or protusion can befoundhere:-http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-building.htm2. Please refer toattachment:Illustration 1.2.1Usually, I use the"eye-ball" methodto determinethe "largest" WHOLErectangle.This is a quick method toROUGHLY determine thecentrepoint orcenter-of-gravityof theapartment.2.2 NOTE:Pleasenote that theprotusion inYELLOW underIllustration 1 isNOTcorrect.As mentioned above,it isjusta rough guide.2.3 In fact,I don't draw outsuch anillustration. But forthe purpose oflearning inthis forum; I did thisquicksketch.3. After mentallyknowingwhere is the ROUGHcenterpointorcenter-of-gravity, Iwillstartto plot a more accurateoutlineto determine a moreaccuratecentrepoint (allusingthe"eye-ball" method).4. When Iroughly get the areaof the SUMofMissing cornersroughly equalto theSUM ofprotusions; seeattachment:Illustration 2; thenI willfeelconfident that I ampretty close togetting thecentrepoing correct.5. Forthose of you, you canalso: copya layout plan;pasteit on acardboard.Cut-out theoutlineandbalance it on a nail.Theplace where the nail balancesthe entire layout plan shouldbethe centre of gravity.However, as Imentioned, I amusing the "eye-ball"method. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted August 17, 2018 Staff Share Posted August 17, 2018 Finding the Centrepoint: 1. Many of us would often mistaken that this unit has missing corners as shown, here:- 2. Other than cut-out an outline on a cardboard and balancing it on a pin, I use a quick eye-ball method to roughly equate the purple area (yes purple area is suppose to be the protrusion):- 3. I asked many people and often they felt that this unit has lots of missing corners as they felt that Para 1 above best reflect this layout. 4. But 80% of the time many never realise that as there CAN be missing corners, there can also be PROTUSIONS! Not always assume an odd shape layout always have missing areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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