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On 9/30/2010 3:14:47 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Master, I need your help to confirm is my toilet at the center of my house? If so, can I use it occasionally, or I totally cannot use it at all?
If I am not the one using it, but I am staying in the house, will myluck be affected? Thank you very much!

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These are some of the considerations.
1. See attachment: Yes, BOTH toilets are considered as within (boundary) of the TWO toilets (Upper and Lower).
2. Luck normally depends on:-
2.1. How suitable the home is to breadwinner.
2.2. External Shapes and Forms
2.3. Flying Star Facing directions:
2.3.1 Better facing directions in GENERAL are NE, SW and South.
2.3.2 Especially for next year: depending on the consideration of the facing direction; one of the nastiest facing directions NEXT year is EAST. North ain't that pretty either..
3. The concept of "You stay there we (geomancers) don't".
3.1. Frankly, it is so easy to write a few lines and "command you" not to use your toilets! But, don't be foolish like many people who were told that they must never use their toilet!
3.2. Look at it this way, how many homes have their toilet outside of their community?
3.3. Even a EUNCH needs to pass motion and water!
4. Isn't it crazy to say DON'T use that (British term: BLOODY) toilet, please!
5. Usually in order to have major issues; a home often has more than 3 or more "leaks". Thus both toilets can be considered as ONE leak.
Fix-the-Leak, First!
6. No use in banging one's head pointlessly against the wall. The more sensible approach???
The Concept of Maximizing Marks
7. Many apartments do have a toilet (or toilets) at the centrepoint. As mentioned above, other factors include what was mentioned under Para 2. above.

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On 9/30/2010 5:07:04 PM, Anonymous wrote:
On 9/30/2010 3:14:47 PM, Rachel cheng
wrote: Dear Master, I need your help to
confirm is my toilet at the center of my
house? If so, can I use it occasionally,
or I totally cannot use it at all? If I
am not the one using it, but I am
staying in the house, will myluck
be affected? Thank you very much!


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Dear Master, thank youfor your advice. I have read in some books that the centrepointof a house can be more accurately determined by finding out the centre of gravity, e.g. cut outthefloorplan from a cardboard, poke one edge with a pin, let it hang and draw the centre line, repeat with 2 other edges; the point of intersection will be the centre of gravity,hence the centrepoint.
If I were to use this method for my house, the centrepoint will shift left towards the living room, out of the boundary of the toilet. This ismainly because to the right of the toiletlies the aircon ledge, which is an open space and hence notconsidered part of the livable space.
Would you be so kind toassess/explain whether this view is correct?
Regards
Rachel's Husband,
Kauwee

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On 9/30/2010 5:23:30 PM, Anonymous wrote:
These are some of the considerations.1.
See attachment: Yes, BOTH toilets are
considered as within (boundary) of the
TWO toilets (Upper and Lower).2. Luck
normally depends on:-2.1. How suitable
the home is to breadwinner.2.2. External
Shapes and Forms2.3. Flying Star Facing
directions:2.3.1 Better facing
directions in GENERAL are NE, SW and
South.2.3.2 Especially for next year:
depending on the consideration of the
facing direction; one of the nastiest
facing directions NEXT year is EAST.
North ain't that pretty either..3. The
concept of "You stay there we
(geomancers) don't".3.1. Frankly, it is
so easy to write a few lines and
"command you" not to use your toilets!
But, don't be foolish like many people
who were told that they must never use
their toilet!3.2. Look at it this way,
how many homes have their toilet outside
of their community?3.3. Even a EUNCH
needs to pass motion and water!4. Isn't
it crazy to say DON'T use that (British
term: BLOODY) toilet, please!5. Usually
in order to have major issues; a home
often has more than 3 or more "leaks".
Thus both toilets can be considered as
ONE leak.Fix-the-Leak, First!6. No use
in banging one's head pointlessly
against the wall. The more sensible
approach???The Concept of Maximizing
Marks7. Many apartments do have a toilet
(or toilets) at the centrepoint. As
mentioned above, other factors include
what was mentioned under Para 2.
above.On 9/30/2010 5:07:04 PM, Rachel
cheng wrote:
On 9/30/2010 3:14:47
PM, Rachel cheng
wrote: Dear Master,
I need your help to
confirm is my
toilet at the center of my
house? If
so, can I use it occasionally,
or I
totally cannot use it at all? If I
am not the one using it, but I am
staying in the house, will
myluck
be affected? Thank you
very much!
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A. Please check out the link or many past messages or even my past resources on this subject, below:-

http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=28248&new=
or do a search for either center of gravity or centre of gravity.
The message in the above link says it all:-


1. The significance of missing corner or protusion can be found here:-


http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-building.htm


2. Please refer to attachment: Illustration 1.


2.1 Usually, I use the "eye-ball" method to determine the "largest" WHOLE rectangle. This is a quick method to ROUGHLY determine the centrepoint or center-of-gravity of the apartment.


2.2 NOTE: Please note that the protusion in YELLOW under Illustration 1 is NOT correct. As mentioned above, it is just a rough guide.


2.3 In fact, I don't draw out such an illustration. But for the purpose of learning in this forum; I did this quick sketch.


3. After mentally knowing where is the ROUGH centerpoint or center-of-gravity, I will start to plot a more accurate outline to determine a more accurate centrepoint (all using the "eye-ball" method).


4. When I roughly get the area of the SUM of Missing corners roughly equal to the SUM of protusions; see attachment: Illustration 2; then I will feel confident that I am pretty close to getting the centrepoing correct.


5. For those of you, you can also: copy a layout plan; paste it on a cardboard. Cut-out the outline and balance it on a nail. The place where the nail balances the entire layout plan should be the centre of gravity. However, as I mentioned, I am using the "eye-ball" method.


6. Therefore, based on a quick determination: refer to Illustration 2, yes the toilet (close to the basin) is at the centerpoint.
==== END OF CUT-PASTE========
B. The term "garbage-in-garbage out" still applies to BOTH the above ROUGH determination via eye-ball method or the cut-out.
C. Why?
C1. What makes this layout plan unique is that the area of missing corner can never be equal to the area of protusion.
C2. Thus, just imagine you cut-out the entire area including say the PROTUSION. If so, of course, you will be very happy or elated to find that the center of gravity is not at the toilet area.
C3. Anyway, one good news is that even with the "eye-ball" method I had mentioned, your centerpoint (not necessarily) the center of gravity is actually on a wall dividing between your toilet and your corridor area.
C4. When it comes to psychology; if it makes both of you elated or happy to discover your centre of gravity is not at the main entrance then, it is fine.
D. Here the "eye ball" method as mentioned in the above previous forum message clearly state that it is ROUGH method.
D1. And usually, it can be very accurate if say the area of missing corner roughly equals to the area of protusion.
D2. What you are using is to find the center-of-gravity. Although both it and centerpoint seems similar; usually it should be close-by. Unless it depends on how one cut-out the layout plan. Here, I am sure you added the non-living space i.e. the protusion aka the balcony area. It is subjective. But, hey, you can rejoice, now.

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On 9/30/2010 10:47:26 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Master, thank youfor your
advice. I have read in some books that
the centrepointof a house can be
more accurately determined by finding
out the centre of gravity, e.g. cut
outthefloorplan from a
cardboard, poke one edge with a pin, let
it hang and draw the centre line, repeat
with 2 other edges; the point of
intersection will be the centre of
gravity,hence the centrepoint.If I
were to use this method for my house,
the centrepoint will shift left towards
the living room, out of the boundary of
the toilet. This ismainly because
to the right of the toiletlies the
aircon ledge, which is an open space and
hence notconsidered part of the
livable space.Would you be so kind
toassess/explain whether this view
is correct?RegardsRachel's
Husband,Kauwee
On 9/30/2010 5:23:30 PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
These are some of
the considerations.1.
See
attachment: Yes, BOTH toilets are
considered as within (boundary) of
the
TWO toilets (Upper and Lower).2.
Luck
normally depends on:-2.1. How
suitable
the home is to
breadwinner.2.2. External
Shapes and
Forms2.3. Flying Star Facing
directions:2.3.1 Better facing
directions in GENERAL are NE, SW and
South.2.3.2 Especially for next
year:
depending on the consideration
of the
facing direction; one of the
nastiest
facing directions NEXT year
is EAST.
North ain't that pretty
either..3. The
concept of "You stay
there we
(geomancers) don't".3.1.
Frankly, it is
so easy to write a
few lines and
"command you" not to
use your toilets!
But, don't be
foolish like many people
who were
told that they must never use
their
toilet!3.2. Look at it this way,
how
many homes have their toilet outside
of their community?3.3. Even a EUNCH
needs to pass motion and water!4.
Isn't
it crazy to say DON'T use that
(British
term: BLOODY) toilet,
please!5. Usually
in order to have
major issues; a home
often has more
than 3 or more "leaks".
Thus both
toilets can be considered as
ONE
leak.Fix-the-Leak, First!6. No use
in banging one's head pointlessly
against the wall. The more sensible
approach???The Concept of Maximizing
Marks7. Many apartments do have a
toilet
(or toilets) at the
centrepoint. As
mentioned above,
other factors include
what was
mentioned under Para 2.
above.On
9/30/2010 5:07:04 PM, Rachel
cheng
wrote:
On 9/30/2010 3:14:47
PM,
Rachel cheng
wrote: Dear Master,
I need your help to
confirm is
my
toilet at the center of my
house? If
so, can I use it
occasionally,
or I
totally
cannot use it at all? If I
am
not the one using it, but I am
staying in the house, will
myluck
be affected? Thank
you
very much!

Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

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Further to what I had mentioned, based on the Holy Trinity of Luck:-
1. In fact, many are not born with a silver spoon. (via ba zi or Heaven Luck).
2. The thought of having not so good Feng Shui (earth luck) sometimes; this area combined with Para 1; can lead to auto-suggestion, self-fullfilling prophecy. As well as make us feel not so good.
3. Thus, another very important "tool" is Human or Man luck. For example, some people, don't have good heaven luck nor good Feng Shui luck; but they are very contented with having a good family relationship, bonding etc..
4. Human or man luck should never be discounted; thus so long as both of you "feel good" or nice feeling; then it beats whether the center point or center of gravity is as written, in this book or that forum.
5. Unfortnately, some shower their homes with useless products in the name of Feng Shui. But, hey! Again, if one feels good about spending money on some useless products; well go ahead! It is all about Human or man luck. (Plus, those sellers equally share the happiness with people. People become happy or feel happy perhaps with less money; while the sellers feel happy because they made huge profits
6. Morale of the story is: "in fact, sometimes; it is even better to be ignorant about such things than to bang one's head or try to find some other explanation: to side-track the issue". Again, the result is based on "Garbage-in Garbage-out" G.I.G.O. sort of thing.
7. In addition; the importance of "You stay, there or going to stay there" vs us geomancers who if present, sometimes spent only 1 or 2 hours or slightly more at a home. And it is ridiculous to ask you guys not to use toilet A and/or toilet B! Those who provide such fantastic advice, should either plug their waste system with bottle corks or use cable tie. As mentioned; even Eunuchs need to go to the toilet.
8. Frankly, the curse of the internet is: Info overload; fast food feng shui and the saying a little knowledge is a dangerous kinda of thingy!

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On 9/30/2010 11:09:06 PM, Anonymous wrote:
A. Please check out the link
or many past messages or even
my past resources on this
subject,
below:-http://forum.geomancy.n
et/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&
fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do a
search for either center of
gravity or centre of
gravity.The message in the
above link says it all:-
1. The significance of missing
corner or protusion can be
found here:-
http://www.geomancy.net/
resources/theories/fs-building
.htm
2. Please refer to attachment:
Illustration 1.
2.1 Usually, I use the
"eye-ball" method to determine
the "largest" WHOLE rectangle.
This is a quick method to
ROUGHLY determine the
centrepoint or
center-of-gravity of the
apartment.
2.2 NOTE: Please note that the
protusion in YELLOW under
Illustration 1 is NOT correct.
As mentioned above, it is just
a rough guide.
2.3 In fact, I don't draw out
such an illustration. But for
the purpose of learning in
this forum; I did this quick
sketch.
3. After mentally knowing
where is the ROUGH centerpoint
or center-of-gravity, I will
start to plot a more accurate
outline to determine a more
accurate centrepoint (all
using the "eye-ball" method).
4. When I roughly get the area
of the SUM of Missing corners
roughly equal to the SUM of
protusions; see attachment:
Illustration 2; then I will
feel confident that I am
pretty close to getting the
centrepoing correct.
5. For those of you, you can
also: copy a layout plan;
paste it on a cardboard.
Cut-out the outline and
balance it on a nail. The
place where the nail balances
the entire layout plan should
be the centre of gravity.
However, as I mentioned, I am
using the "eye-ball" method.

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1. Please see attachment.
2. As the layout plan can distinctively be split roughly 50:50;
3. Thus, the center of gravity and/or centerpoint should still be along the RED line. (OR close to it) or should not differ too much from that zone.The only thing is that it depends on how much of the balcony area one takes into consideration: to add or not to add it to say the "cut-out".

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On 9/30/2010 11:09:06 PM, Anonymous wrote:
A. Please check out the link
or many past messages or even
my past resources on this
subject,
below:-http://forum.geomancy.n
et/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&
fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do a
search for either center of
gravity or centre of
gravity.The message in the
above link says it all:-
1. The significance of missing
corner or protusion can be
found here:-
http://www.geomancy.net/
resources/theories/fs-building
.htm
2. Please refer to attachment:
Illustration 1.
2.1 Usually, I use the
"eye-ball" method to determine
the "largest" WHOLE rectangle.
This is a quick method to
ROUGHLY determine the
centrepoint or
center-of-gravity of the
apartment.
2.2 NOTE: Please note that the
protusion in YELLOW under
Illustration 1 is NOT correct.
As mentioned above, it is just
a rough guide.
2.3 In fact, I don't draw out
such an illustration. But for
the purpose of learning in
this forum; I did this quick
sketch.
3. After mentally knowing
where is the ROUGH centerpoint
or center-of-gravity, I will
start to plot a more accurate
outline to determine a more
accurate centrepoint (all
using the "eye-ball" method).
4. When I roughly get the area
of the SUM of Missing corners
roughly equal to the SUM of
protusions; see attachment:
Illustration 2; then I will
feel confident that I am
pretty close to getting the
centrepoing correct.
5. For those of you, you can
also: copy a layout plan;
paste it on a cardboard.
Cut-out the outline and
balance it on a nail. The
place where the nail balances
the entire layout plan should
be the centre of gravity.
However, as I mentioned, I am
using the "eye-ball" method.


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I always keep in mind this phase "You stay there (YOUR HOME); We (Geomancers) don't!"
Just imagine, someone coming to your home; and provide the "weirdest" advice like: don't use your master toilet! Completely shut it down.. sort of thing! Is this for real?
The Geomancer will happily go off with your fees and if you do listen to such advice; saddled with the inconvenience and "issue" for the rest of your life whilst living in that home!

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On 10/1/2010 12:01:02 AM, Anonymous wrote:
1. Please see attachment.2. As the
layout plan can distinctively be split
roughly 50:50;3. Thus, the center of
gravity and/or centerpoint should still
be along the RED line. (OR close to it)
or should not differ too much from that
zone.The only thing is that it
depends on how much of the balcony area
one takes into consideration: to add or
not to add it to say the "cut-out".On
9/30/2010 11:09:06 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
A. Please check out the link
or
many past messages or even
my past
resources on this
subject,
below:-http://forum.geomancy.n
et/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&
fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do a
search for either center of
gravity or centre of
gravity.The
message in the
above link says it
all:-
1. The significance of missing
corner or protusion can be
found
here:-
http://www.geomancy.net/
resources/theories/fs-building
.htm
2. Please refer to
attachment:
Illustration 1.
2.1
Usually, I use the
"eye-ball" method
to determine
the "largest" WHOLE
rectangle.
This is a quick method to
ROUGHLY determine the
centrepoint or
center-of-gravity
of the
apartment.
2.2 NOTE:
Please note that the
protusion in
YELLOW under
Illustration 1 is NOT
correct.
As mentioned above, it is
just
a rough guide.
2.3 In fact,
I don't draw out
such an
illustration. But for
the purpose of
learning in
this forum; I did this
quick
sketch.
3. After mentally
knowing
where is the ROUGH
centerpoint
or center-of-gravity, I
will
start to plot a more accurate
outline to determine a more
accurate centrepoint (all
using
the "eye-ball" method).
4. When I
roughly get the area
of the SUM of
Missing corners
roughly equal to the
SUM of
protusions; see attachment:
Illustration 2; then I will
feel
confident that I am
pretty close to
getting the
centrepoing correct.
5. For those of you, you can
also: copy a layout plan;
paste
it on a cardboard.
Cut-out the
outline and
balance it on a nail.
The
place where the nail balances
the entire layout plan should
be
the centre of gravity.
However, as I
mentioned, I am
using the "eye-ball"
method.


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Dear Master, thank you for the comprehensive explanations, coupled with good-natured humour! Very Happy

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On 10/1/2010 3:56:12 PM, Anonymous wrote:
I always keep in mind this phase "You
stay there (YOUR HOME); We (Geomancers)
don't!"Just imagine, someone coming to
your home; and provide the "weirdest"
advice like: don't use your master
toilet! Completely shut it down.. sort
of thing! Is this for real?The Geomancer
will happily go off with your fees and
if you do listen to such advice; saddled
with the inconvenience and "issue" for
the rest of your life whilst living in
that home!On 10/1/2010 12:01:02 AM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
1. Please see
attachment.2. As the
layout plan can
distinctively be split
roughly
50:50;3. Thus, the center of
gravity
and/or centerpoint should still
be
along the RED line. (OR close to it)
or should not differ too much from
that
zone.The only thing is
that it
depends on how much of the
balcony area
one takes into
consideration: to add or
not to add
it to say the "cut-out".On
9/30/2010
11:09:06 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
A.
Please check out the link
or
many past messages or even
my
past
resources on this
subject,
below:-http://forum.geomancy.n
et/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&am
p;
fid=1&mid=28248&new=or do a
search for either center of
gravity or centre of
gravity.The
message in the
above link says it
all:-
1.
The significance of missing
corner or protusion can be
found
here:-
http://www.geomancy.net/
resources/theories/fs-building
.htm
2. Please refer to
attachment:
Illustration 1.
2.1
Usually, I use the
"eye-ball" method
to determine
the "largest" WHOLE
rectangle.
This is a quick method to
ROUGHLY determine the
centrepoint or
center-of-gravity
of the
apartment.
2.2 NOTE:
Please
note that the
protusion in
YELLOW under
Illustration 1 is
NOT
correct.
As mentioned above,
it is
just
a rough guide.
2.3 In fact,
I don't draw out
such an
illustration. But for
the purpose of
learning in
this forum; I did this
quick
sketch.
3. After mentally
knowing
where is the ROUGH
centerpoint
or
center-of-gravity, I
will
start
to plot a more accurate
outline
to determine a more
accurate
centrepoint (all
using
the
"eye-ball" method).
4. When I
roughly get the area
of the SUM
of
Missing corners
roughly equal
to the
SUM of
protusions; see
attachment:
Illustration 2; then
I will
feel
confident that I am
pretty close to
getting the
centrepoing correct.
5. For
those of you, you can
also: copy
a layout plan;
paste
it on a
cardboard.
Cut-out the
outline
and
balance it on a nail.
The
place where the nail balances
the entire layout plan should
be
the centre of gravity.
However, as I
mentioned, I am
using the "eye-ball"
method.
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Finding the Centrepoint:

1. Many of us would often mistaken that this unit has missing corners as shown, here:-

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2. Other than cut-out an outline on a cardboard and balancing it on a pin, I use a quick eye-ball method to roughly equate the purple area (yes purple area is suppose to be the protrusion):-1048363484_findingthecentrepointsampleHDBflat.thumb.png.c1af06d6457a11a5e7e2903a4357675d.png

3. I asked many people and often they felt that this unit has lots of missing corners as they felt that Para 1 above best reflect this layout.

4. But 80% of the time many never realise that as there CAN be missing corners, there can also be PROTUSIONS! Not always assume an odd shape layout always have missing areas.

 


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