Site Plan General Feng Shui Issue

[myfs_149324]

Dear Forum
I have designed a project in Northeast China for Townhouses and Residential Villas as the second phase of an already existing compound development.
In order to break to usual pattern of placing houses next to each other and form the well known monotonous rows with no relation to trees, landscape places and view connections I decided to put a cluster of houses with floating greenery in between them. The topography falls from south to north (unfortunately) and the clubhouse in the northeast corner is already built. The lake sits at the lowest point of topography and forms a special area for the high-class villas.
After confirming and supporting this layout for the whole planning phase, the client has no had some discussions with the marketing company and an issue came up that might totally change the whole design. It is said that the changing cluster of the houses forms sharp edges that point at each other and thus a major "Feng Shui" problem arises. Nobody could really explain what the problem is and I suspect that is just their insecurity about how to proceed with the project.
So I am looking for advice to investigate what really counts into the Feng Shui area and how this issue can be dealt with.
Please find the Masterplan attached.

[Cecil Lee]

In addition.
1. Under Shapes and Forms Feng Shui; a triangular roof can be considered as a poison arrow.
2. See attachment.
3. If the neighbouring blocks are parallel to each other and face it other identical; for example marking Y and Z shows that the two blocks are aligned exactly the same; thus even if it's triangular roof is a poison arrow; it cancels each other out.
4. While for markings A and B; the blocks are not aligned so is C and D. Thus, C's triangular roof shoots a poison arrow towards D's and vice versa.
5. Thus, if the development is or was built; and usually if it is not Feng Shui friendly; many of such units are hard up to be sold.
6. I have quickly added more "porcupines" into this masterplan. There are more.. too many.. phew!
7. Good innocent concept; but ain't gonna work for the all time Feng Shui concepts... frankly, just won't do... unfortunately!

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On 3/14/2011 8:37:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
These are some considerations:-1. In my
opinion; although your concept can be
applauded as it allows "staggered"
greenery; but from a External Shapes and
Forms Feng Shui; it is a "time-bomb" or
there are lots of porcupine needles.2.
Here, under Shapes and Forms Feng Shui,
the edge of a building is suppose to act
like a poison arrow aimed towards it's
neighbour.3. For example, there are
simply too many "porcupines" or spikes;
thus randomly; you can see "sha qi" or
poison arrows in RED aimed from the edge
of a building towards it's neighbour.4.
For example, take the look at the
slanted club-house; it is at an angle;
where the edge of the corner seems to
point directly towards a neighbour
home.5. Frankly, there are just too many
of these "porcupines"; thus, I just
simply marked a few out of a "ton" of
them.6. No wonder; your masterplan
unfortunately gets the "boot!'. It will
not pass!7. Personally, I have done so
many masterplan and in the attachment is
one of the many I done for Vietnam.8.
And yes, although the townhouses and
residential homes and villas are in rows
upon rows.. this is a very common
feature! In the attached PDF, the
terrace and semi-detached homes are in
an orderly arrangement. Originally; the
developer also had something like your
porcupine layout... 9. Your proposal is
something like
this:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum
/article.php?bid=2&fid=6&mid=29103&new=T
here is an illustration of a home that
sticks out like a sore-thumb amongst
standard rows of flat.10. I am afraid;
this should be bea culture shock
of sorts for you. Your master plan; thus
cannot pass under the "Shapes and Forms
Feng Shui" that's why most likely... On
3/14/2011 8:13:52 PM, ALEXANDER SCHOBER
wrote:
Dear ForumI have designed a
project in Northeast China for
Townhouses and Residential
Villas as the second phase of
an
already existing compound
development.In order to break
to
usual pattern of placing
houses next
to each other and
form the well
known monotonous
rows with no
relation to
trees, landscape places
and
view connections I decided to
put a cluster of houses with
floating greenery in between
them. The topography falls
from
south to north
(unfortunately) and
the
clubhouse in the northeast
corner is already built. The
lake sits at the lowest point
of
topography and forms a
special area
for the
high-class villas.After
confirming and supporting this
layout for the whole planning
phase, the client has no had
some discussions with the
marketing company and an issue
came up that might totally
change the whole design. It is
said that the changing cluster
of the houses forms sharp
edges
that point at each other
and thus a
major "Feng Shui"
problem arises.
Nobody could
really explain what the
problem is and I suspect that
is
just their insecurity about
how to
proceed with the
project.So I am
looking for
advice to investigate
what
really counts into the Feng
Shui area and how this issue
can
be dealt with.Please find
the
Masterplan attached.

[Cecil Lee]

Further to what I had mentioned, under the link below; the triangle roofs are considered as a "poison arrow" and they can aim towards another building or neighbouring townhouse or even villa...
http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=19&mid=27624&new=

[Cecil Lee]

These are some considerations:-
1. In my opinion; although your concept can be applauded as it allows "staggered" greenery; but from a External Shapes and Forms Feng Shui; it is a "time-bomb" or there are lots of porcupine needles.
2. Here, under Shapes and Forms Feng Shui, the edge of a building is suppose to act like a poison arrow aimed towards it's neighbour.
3. For example, there are simply too many "porcupines" or spikes; thus randomly; you can see "sha qi" or poison arrows in RED aimed from the edge of a building towards it's neighbour.
4. For example, take the look at the slanted club-house; it is at an angle; where the edge of the corner seems to point directly towards a neighbour home.
5. Frankly, there are just too many of these "porcupines"; thus, I just simply marked a few out of a "ton" of them.
6. No wonder; your masterplan unfortunately gets the "boot!'. It will not pass!
7. Personally, I have done so many masterplan and in the attachment is one of the many I done for Vietnam.
8. And yes, although the townhouses and residential homes and villas are in rows upon rows.. this is a very common feature! In the attached PDF, the terrace and semi-detached homes are in an orderly arrangement. Originally; the developer also had something like your porcupine layout...
9. Your proposal is something like this:-
http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=6&mid=29103&new=
There is an illustration of a home that sticks out like a sore-thumb amongst standard rows of flat.
10. I am afraid; this should be bea culture shock of sorts for you. Your master plan; thus cannot pass under the "Shapes and Forms Feng Shui" that's why most likely...
11. The morale of the story? Don't hope that it will ever be accepted! Spent your midnight oil and Change it! Nowadays, everywhere, not just the Chinese are trying to build Feng Shui friendly homes...

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On 3/14/2011 8:13:52 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear ForumI have designed a
project in Northeast China for
Townhouses and Residential
Villas as the second phase of
an already existing compound
development.In order to break
to usual pattern of placing
houses next to each other and
form the well known monotonous
rows with no relation to
trees, landscape places and
view connections I decided to
put a cluster of houses with
floating greenery in between
them. The topography falls
from south to north
(unfortunately) and the
clubhouse in the northeast
corner is already built. The
lake sits at the lowest point
of topography and forms a
special area for the
high-class villas.After
confirming and supporting this
layout for the whole planning
phase, the client has no had
some discussions with the
marketing company and an issue
came up that might totally
change the whole design. It is
said that the changing cluster
of the houses forms sharp
edges that point at each other
and thus a major "Feng Shui"
problem arises. Nobody could
really explain what the
problem is and I suspect that
is just their insecurity about
how to proceed with the
project.So I am looking for
advice to investigate what
really counts into the Feng
Shui area and how this issue
can be dealt with.Please find
the Masterplan attached.

[myfs_149324]

Dear Cecil Lee,
thanks for the frank and clear advice. I feel like being thrown back on a schoolbench ! FLUNKED !
That is cross-cultural educational pain I have to go through. Tough luck. But if it is so obvious, why didn?t they tell me months before ??? I guess round edges could change a bit. But for now I am at least relieved that it is not just an excuse to get out of it.
There were designs in Oct last year that led to the decision. I?ll post a few of them. So even if houses are far from each other, porcupines will get them , hugh ?
Thanks ! Alex

[myfs_149324]

Dear Cecil Lee,
thanks for the frank and clear advice. I feel like being thrown back on a schoolbench ! FLUNKED !
That
is cross-cultural educational pain I have to go through. Tough luck.
But if it is so obvious, why didn?t they tell me months before ??? I
guess round edges could change a bit. But for now I am at least relieved
that it is not just an excuse to get out of it.
There were
designs in Oct last year that led to the decision. I?ll post a few of
them. So even if houses are far from each other, porcupines will get
them , hugh ?
Thanks ! Alex

[Cecil Lee]

1. Frankly, there are two kinds of Feng Shui: those relating to authentic ones.. and there is another category known as Bull-shit ones where many sell commercial products.
2. Feng Shui is very popular today; may not be as prevalent in Europe; but is now very popular even in the US and re-exported back to an "open China".
3. I strongly belive the rounding of edges "AIN"T gona help!" Seriously in my opinion; you got to stop the "itch" and go back to the traditional row upon rows of how houses or villas should look like.
4. Don't try to be the hero and re-invent the wheel
5. Frankly, to you even if houses are percieved far away from each other; unfortunately; you are not the pay-master! This is the difference between your perception of a distant porcupine or porcupines... Again, even how far the procupines are; don't test the ground... sure guaranteed to FLUNK great time!
6. In addition; this is another cultural lesson; most "Chinese or Chinese related" clients don't ever say things directly. Many don't tell you in the FACE... especially if the layout plan goes ping pong diplomacy; you should get the HINT!

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On 3/14/2011 9:53:13 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Cecil Lee,thanks for the
frank and clear advice. I feel
like being thrown back on a
schoolbench ! FLUNKED ! That
is cross-cultural educational
pain I have to go through.
Tough luck. But if it is so
obvious, why didn?t they tell
me months before ??? I guess
round edges could change a
bit. But for now I am at least
relieved that it is not just
an excuse to get out of it.
There were designs in Oct last
year that led to the decision.
I?ll post a few of them. So
even if houses are far from
each other, porcupines will
get them , hugh ? Thanks !
Alex

[myfs_149324]

these were the other options, but the client insisted to follow MP 3 ! well, ...

[myfs_149324]

No. That is exactly the problem. The right option (MP4) was put aside for 4 months but now it is the only option possible. MP3 was chosen ! Well, thanks for your recommendation ! Really a great help.
Hadn?t expected such a question to be answered in such a short time !! Cheers. Alex

[Cecil Lee]

Attached is an interesting flow-chart of responsibilites...
In Asia, it is very common to have the type of flow-chart reflected on the right of this illustration.
In Europe or West; the typical Developer works with the Main Architect.