myfs_140469 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 H Mr Cecil,May I have your opinion on the following 2 ceiling layout, which one is better. Is T-ceiling an auspicious layout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 25, 2011 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2011 These are some considerations:1. Contrary to popular belief as false ceilings are light-weight materials and NOT load bearing; which every design they are incorporated into the ceiling; these false ceilings are not going to DIRECTLY affect one's health or whatever.2. Thus categorically speaking; false ceilings are much like many of the decorative features of any home.3. However, some people associate such false ceilings as or EQUAL to CEILING BEAMS. Because of this misinterpretation or mistaken identity;4. Thus under the illustration: MODELS OF COVE LIGHT A.GIF, check out illustration 3.5. The false ceiling runs around the "parameter" of the living room. And what looks like a "false ceiling" above the sofa. Under this illustration often drop-down lights are also incorporated above the false ceiling of the sofa and boundary of the false ceiling. 6. Sometimes, when we do have visits and some visitors may comment: "Hey! It is no good to seat below a beam". If we constantly get such comments; personally some of us may not feel very comfortable afterwards. Even though such false ceilings are not real beams. Quote On 10/24/2011 11:33:29 AM, Anonymous wrote:H Mr Cecil,May I have youropinion on the following 2ceiling layout, which one isbetter. Is T-ceiling anauspicious layout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 25, 2011 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2011 1. Please refer to attachment.2. This attachment: Illustration 3Ais considered as an improvement over Illustration 3. As visually, there does not SEEM tohave a "beam"(false ceiling) above the sofa.3. Illustrations 3 and 3A often have down-lights incorporated into the false ceiling. 3.1 This is why under illustration 3;in order for thedown-lights to be incorporated into the false ceiling often it has to extend further thus; often part of this false ceiling may be above one's head when seated on the sofa. Quote On 10/25/2011 5:56:33 AM, Anonymous wrote:These are some considerations:1.Contrary to popular belief as falseceilings are light-weight materials andNOT load bearing; which every designthey are incorporated into the ceiling;these false ceilings are not going toDIRECTLY affect one's health orwhatever.2. Thus categorically speaking;false ceilings are much like many of thedecorative features of any home.3.However, some people associate suchfalse ceilings as or EQUAL to CEILINGBEAMS. Because of this misinterpretationor mistaken identity;4. Thus under theillustration: MODELS OF COVE LIGHTA.GIF, check out illustration 3.5. Thefalse ceiling runs around the"parameter" of the living room. And whatlooks like a "false ceiling" above thesofa. Under this illustration oftendrop-down lights are also incorporatedabove the false ceiling of the sofa andboundary of the false ceiling. 6.Sometimes, when we do have visits andsome visitors may comment: "Hey! It isno good to seat below a beam". If weconstantly get such comments; personallysome of us may not feel very comfortableafterwards. Even though such falseceilings are not real beams.On10/24/2011 11:33:29 AM, Anonymous wrote:H Mr Cecil,May I have youropinion on the following 2ceiling layout, which one isbetter. Is T-ceiling anauspicious layout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 25, 2011 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2011 1. Around 5 to 6 years ago, frequently encountered this type of design: check out attached: Illustrations 1 and 2.2. As mentioned under Part 1: such false ceilings are NOT load bearing thus physically, there is no impact on health whatever.3. It is because of a person's perception that such false ceilings are equivalent of load bearing beams; that trigger an uncomfortable response.4. Under Illustrations 1 and 2; you will notice that the "false ceiling" is a large piece "much like a roof" over the entire sofa area. Quote On 10/25/2011 6:08:17 AM, Anonymous wrote:1. Please refer to attachment.2.This attachment: Illustration 3Aisconsidered as an improvement overIllustration 3. As visually, there doesnot SEEM tohave a"beam"(false ceiling) above thesofa.3. Illustrations 3 and 3A oftenhave down-lights incorporated into thefalse ceiling. 3.1 This is why underillustration 3;in order forthedown-lights to be incorporatedinto the false ceiling often it has toextend further thus; often part of thisfalse ceiling may be above one's headwhen seated on the sofa.On 10/25/20115:56:33 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:Theseare some considerations:1.Contraryto popular belief as falseceilingsare light-weight materials andNOTload bearing; which every designthey are incorporated into theceiling;these false ceilings arenot going toDIRECTLY affect one'shealth orwhatever.2. Thuscategorically speaking;falseceilings are much like many of thedecorative features of any home.3.However, some people associate suchfalse ceilings as or EQUAL toCEILINGBEAMS. Because of thismisinterpretationor mistakenidentity;4. Thus under theillustration: MODELS OF COVE LIGHTA.GIF, check out illustration 3.5.Thefalse ceiling runs around the"parameter" of the living room. Andwhatlooks like a "false ceiling"above thesofa. Under thisillustration oftendrop-down lightsare also incorporatedabove thefalse ceiling of the sofa andboundary of the false ceiling. 6.Sometimes, when we do have visitsandsome visitors may comment: "Hey!It isno good to seat below a beam".If weconstantly get such comments;personallysome of us may not feelvery comfortableafterwards. Eventhough such falseceilings are notreal beams.On10/24/2011 11:33:29AM, Anonymous wrote:H MrCecil,May I have youropinion onthe following 2ceiling layout,which one isbetter. IsT-ceiling anauspicious layout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 25, 2011 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2011 1. As mentioned earlier; false ceilings should be treated as part of the interior deco of a home.2. And such false ceilings (made up of gypsum board materials are light weight) and NOT load bearing beams. And will not create any "health issues" even if one sits @ an extended periods below this false ceiling.3. Sometimes, personally we don't feel uncomfortable with such as what some perceived as "seated below a beam" = inauspicious. But, if we have visitors: family, relatives and friends who make such comments; afterwards, some may feel uneasy over such a beam.4. Please see attachment. For the reason mentioned under para 3; perhaps, if the false ceiling is below a sofa's arm rest; it is OK. But if one may be seated below the false ceiling as circled in RED; again some may feel uneasy (even if this is not a true load bearing beam).5. Common sense, Common sense and asthetically look nice!5.1. Usually, we have a false ceiling with cove lights as such lights are easier on the eyes as they are ambient lighting.5.2. Thus based on common sense; we should make sure that the ceiling lights should serve a major purpose: that of providing good lighting BUT EASY on the EYES. This should be the primary goal. And the secondary goal is: it should asthetically look nice!6. Your ceilingB.jpg also can be considered as a variant of my earlier illustrations: 1 and 2 (or vice versa).7. Consciously even though false ceilings are not real beams; sometimes when we try to buy the new sofa for the home; one suddenly has to bring along the ruler and try to buy a sofa that can be "squeezed" into the area to "avoid" the false ceiling as per your ceilingB.jpg.8. Your illustration ceilingA.jpg = Ceiling A is what I mentioned under illustrations 1 and 2 = same cup of tea or close to it. Quote On 10/25/2011 6:14:40 AM, Anonymous wrote:1. Around 5 to 6 years ago, frequentlyencountered this type of design: checkout attached: Illustrations 1 and 2.2.As mentioned under Part 1: such falseceilings are NOT load bearing thusphysically, there is no impact on healthwhatever.3. It is because of a person'sperception that such false ceilings areequivalent of load bearing beams; thattrigger an uncomfortable response.4.Under Illustrations 1 and 2; you willnotice that the "false ceiling" is alarge piece "much like a roof" over theentire sofa area. On 10/25/2011 6:08:17AM, Cecil Lee wrote:1. Pleaserefer to attachment.2.Thisattachment: Illustration 3Aisconsidered as an improvement overIllustration 3. As visually, theredoesnot SEEM tohave a"beam"(false ceiling) abovethesofa.3. Illustrations 3 and 3Aoftenhave down-lights incorporatedinto thefalse ceiling. 3.1 This iswhy underillustration 3;inorder forthedown-lights to beincorporatedinto the false ceilingoften it has toextend further thus;often part of thisfalse ceiling maybe above one's headwhen seated onthe sofa.On 10/25/20115:56:33 AM,Cecil Lee wrote:Theseare someconsiderations:1.Contrarytopopular belief as falseceilingsare light-weight materials andNOTload bearing; which everydesignthey are incorporatedinto theceiling;these falseceilings arenot going toDIRECTLY affect one'shealth orwhatever.2. Thuscategoricallyspeaking;falseceilings aremuch like many of thedecorativefeatures of any home.3.However,some people associate suchfalseceilings as or EQUAL toCEILINGBEAMS. Because of thismisinterpretationor mistakenidentity;4. Thus under theillustration: MODELS OF COVELIGHTA.GIF, check outillustration 3.5.Thefalseceiling runs around the"parameter" of the living room.Andwhatlooks like a "falseceiling"above thesofa. Underthisillustration oftendrop-down lightsare alsoincorporatedabove thefalseceiling of the sofa andboundaryof the false ceiling. 6.Sometimes, when we do havevisitsandsome visitors maycomment: "Hey!It isno good toseat below a beam".If weconstantly get such comments;personallysome of us may notfeelvery comfortableafterwards. Eventhough suchfalseceilings are notrealbeams.On10/24/2011 11:33:29AM,Anonymous wrote:H MrCecil,May I have youropinion onthe following 2ceiling layout,which one isbetter. IsT-ceilinganauspicious layout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 25, 2011 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2011 1. As this forum has a long history; if one uses the search feature on the TOP left frame; one can also getvery useful resources:-2. For example, check out these two links:-This link has two photos and as mentioned earlier under Part 1 of this thread, I first came across your "ceiling A" model, years ago:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=6&mid=24196&new= 3. This is similar (close to)to my illustration 1 and/or 2 type of false ceiling:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=16048&new= Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 25, 2011 Staff Share Posted October 25, 2011 A simple, elegant, cost effective plus functional design. (Refer to attachments)1. This design is both simple, elegant and functional. And this is a holistic approach as incorporates the entire design into the main entrance, dining and living room spaces.2. For example, often when we enter a home; it is preferred that the foyer light is evenly distributed. Thus a down-light or several down-lights can be incorporated into the false ceiling at the frontage area. While at the living room area, cove lights takes it's place.3. When entering a home, if we have light(s) that are central to the main door; doesn't it make the house more "grand" much like an airport's runway.4. For example, many of us have seen episodes of Mr Beans' dramas, there is always a beam of light that shines down that looks like a cone.5. Here, if we have a light central to the main door; just imagine; the light will shine down like a cone. When standing outside the home, looking inwards, one can see like the cone pointing towards the sky. 5.1 This symbolises an "UP arrow" sign = auspicious. For example, a house with a pointed roof; if we combine the entire profile of the house and the roof; it also looks like an "UP arrow" sign. Which symbolies UP or progress.5.2 However, the only "minus" is that one must make sure where one wants to place the dining table. If so, either the dining table conforms to the outline of the false ceiling OR it can still be "pushed" further or extended much like your example of ceiling A. This is still possible. Quote On 10/25/2011 6:58:24 AM, Anonymous wrote:1. As this forum has a longhistory; if one uses thesearch feature on the TOP leftframe; one can alsogetvery usefulresources:-2. For example,check out these twolinks:-This link has twophotos and as mentionedearlier under Part 1 of thisthread, I first came acrossyour "ceiling A" model, yearsago:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=6&mid=24196&new=3. This is similar (closeto)to my illustration 1and/or 2 type of falseceiling:-http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=16048&new= Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 27, 2011 Staff Share Posted October 27, 2011 Are you able to visualise an "UP ARROW" sign from the entire profile of this rudimentary outline of a typical house? Quote On 10/25/2011 8:25:10 AM, Anonymous wrote: A simple, elegant, cost effective plus functional design. (Refer to attachments)1. This design is both simple, elegant and functional. And this is a holistic approach as incorporates the entire design into the main entrance, dining and living room spaces.2. For example, often when we enter a home; it is preferred that the foyer light is evenly distributed. Thus a down-light or several down-lights can be incorporated into the false ceiling at the frontage area. While at the living room area, cove lights takes it's place.3. When entering a home, if we have light(s) that are central to the main door; doesn't it make the house more "grand" much like an airport's runway.4. For example, many of us have seen episodes of Mr Beans' dramas, there is always a beam of light that shines down that looks like a cone.5. Here, if we have a light central to the main door; just imagine; the light will shine down like a cone. When standing outside the home, looking inwards, one can see like the cone pointing towards the sky. 5.1 This symbolises an "UP arrow" sign = auspicious. For example, a house with a pointed roof; if we combine the entire profile of the house and the roof; it also looks like an "UP arrow" sign. Which symbolies UP or progress.5.2 However, the only "minus" is that one must make sure where one wants to place the dining table. If so, either the dining table conforms to the outline of the false ceiling OR it can still be "pushed" further or extended much like your example of ceiling A. This is still possible.On 10/25/2011 6:58:24 AM, Cecil Lee wrote: 1. As this forum has a long history; if one uses the search feature on the TOP left frame; one can also getvery useful resources:-2. For example, check out these two links:-This link has two photos and as mentioned earlier under Part 1 of this thread, I first came across your "ceiling A" model, years ago:-http://forum.geomancy.net /phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fi d=6&mid=24196&new= 3. This is similar (close to)to my illustration 1 and/or 2 type of false ceiling:-http://forum.geomancy .net/phpforum/article.php?bid= 2&fid=1&mid=16048&new= Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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