Staff Cecil Lee Posted April 28, 2013 Staff Share Posted April 28, 2013 Invisible grilles are pliablewires that are strung along windows either horizontal or vertical.How often we see a young child or several children hang onto a line or such a wire.In the long term, e.g. as this apartment has windows that are west facing, there may be frequent expansion and contraction of these wire lines. (Wear and tear).And if children were to frequently play on these wires; one day the wire(s) may be more and more pliable. And if the wires are hung horizontally, one day, an unfortunate child's head may just get stuck in between a set of the wires = suffocation.Placing these wires vertical is harder. As a child cannot use his whole body weight to "loosen / cure" the wires as much as one which hangs on to the wire causing it to warp significantly (after some time).Hope you can visualise what I am saying. This is pure common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted April 28, 2013 Staff Share Posted April 28, 2013 Pardon me for the rough sketch.It shows a child with his full body weight with both hands handing on the thin wire. And he placed his head between two wires.Do note:1. Of course, the manufacture or installer will always claim that it is safe.2. Like everything, there is the "wear and tear" part. Where if a child were to frequently play or swing himself on the wires.3. It also depends on the length of the grille. The longer the horizontal length, the greater is the concern of it flexing more.4. Sunlight. As the wires are made of some kind of metal, there can be expansion through the years especially if the unit directly faces the afternoon sun. Quote On 4/28/2013 9:03:42 AM, Anonymous wrote:Invisible grilles arepliablewires that arestrung along windows eitherhorizontal or vertical.Howoften we see a young child orseveral children hang onto aline or such a wire.In thelong term, e.g. as thisapartment has windows that arewest facing, there may befrequent expansion andcontraction of these wirelines. (Wear and tear).And ifchildren were to frequentlyplay on these wires; one daythe wire(s) may be more andmore pliable. And if the wiresare hung horizontally, oneday, an unfortunate child'shead may just get stuck inbetween a set of the wires =suffocation.Placing thesewires vertical is harder. As achild cannot use his wholebody weight to "loosen / cure"the wires as much as one whichhangs on to the wire causingit to warp significantly(after some time).Hope you canvisualise what I am saying.This is pure common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted April 28, 2013 Staff Share Posted April 28, 2013 There is another aspect to consider when installing grilles.For example, if a home uses sliding windows, then (in theory) it is preferred that the grilles are horizontal with minimal vertical support pieces. This is because, it would allow the sliding window(s) to be quickly (slide) opened or closed.Imagine, if sliding windows were used and grilles are vertical, it makes it very difficult to open or close the windows.In my opinion, such invisible grilles are unfriendly if casement windows are/were installed. This is because, for casement windows, our hand(s) have to stretch out to open partially or fully opened. In doing so, for most of us our (skin would scrape) the wire grille. AND in no time, especially for us man, it would result in having the hairs on our hands being scraped away. This may be good for a girl. But for us man, some may think that we are either hairless or mistaken otherwise.... Quote On 4/28/2013 9:10:46 AM, Anonymous wrote:Pardon me for the rough sketch.It showsa child with his full body weight withboth hands handing on the thin wire. Andhe placed his head between two wires.Donote:1. Of course, the manufacture orinstaller will always claim that it issafe.2. Like everything, there is the"wear and tear" part. Where if a childwere to frequently play or swing himselfon the wires.3. It also depends on thelength of the grille. The longer thehorizontal length, the greater is theconcern of it flexing more.4. Sunlight.As the wires are made of some kind ofmetal, there can be expansion throughthe years especially if the unitdirectly faces the afternoon sun. On4/28/2013 9:03:42 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:Invisible grilles arepliablewires that arestrung along windows eitherhorizontal or vertical.Howoftenwe see a young child orseveralchildren hang onto aline or such awire.In thelong term, e.g. as thisapartment has windows that arewest facing, there may befrequent expansion andcontraction of these wirelines.(Wear and tear).And ifchildren wereto frequentlyplay on these wires;one daythe wire(s) may be more andmore pliable. And if the wiresare hung horizontally, oneday,an unfortunate child'shead may justget stuck inbetween a set of thewires =suffocation.Placing thesewires vertical is harder. As achild cannot use his wholebodyweight to "loosen / cure"the wiresas much as one whichhangs on to thewire causingit to warpsignificantly(after some time).Hopeyou canvisualise what I am saying.This is pure common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted April 28, 2013 Staff Share Posted April 28, 2013 Install invisible grille + casement windows + open and close the windows daily = hairless hands! Quote On 4/28/2013 3:49:34 PM, Anonymous wrote:There is another aspect to consider wheninstalling grilles.For example, if ahome uses sliding windows, then (intheory) it is preferred that the grillesare horizontal with minimal verticalsupport pieces. This is because, itwould allow the sliding window(s) to bequickly (slide) opened orclosed.Imagine, if sliding windows wereused and grilles are vertical, it makesit very difficult to open or close thewindows.In my opinion, such invisiblegrilles are unfriendly if casementwindows are/were installed. This isbecause, for casement windows, ourhand(s) have to stretch out to openpartially or fully opened. In doing so,for most of us our (skin would scrape)the wire grille. AND in no time,especially for us man, it would resultin having the hairs on our hands beingscraped away. This may be good for agirl. But for us man, some may thinkthat we are either hairless or mistakenotherwise....On 4/28/2013 9:10:46 AM,Cecil Lee wrote:Pardon me for therough sketch.It showsa child withhis full body weight withboth handshanding on the thin wire. Andheplaced his head between two wires.Donote:1. Of course, the manufactureorinstaller will always claim thatit issafe.2. Like everything, thereis the"wear and tear" part. Whereif a childwere to frequently playor swing himselfon the wires.3. Italso depends on thelength of thegrille. The longer thehorizontallength, the greater is theconcernof it flexing more.4. Sunlight.Asthe wires are made of some kind ofmetal, there can be expansionthroughthe years especially if theunitdirectly faces the afternoonsun. On4/28/2013 9:03:42 AM, CecilLee wrote:Invisible grilles arepliablewires that arestrung along windows eitherhorizontal or vertical.Howoftenwe see a young child orseveralchildren hang onto aline or such awire.In thelong term, e.g. as thisapartment has windows that arewest facing, there may befrequent expansion andcontraction of these wirelines.(Wear and tear).And ifchildren wereto frequentlyplay on these wires;one daythe wire(s) may be more andmore pliable. And if the wiresare hung horizontally, oneday,an unfortunate child'shead may justget stuck inbetween a set of thewires =suffocation.Placing thesewires vertical is harder. As achild cannot use his wholebodyweight to "loosen / cure"the wiresas much as one whichhangs on to thewire causingit to warpsignificantly(after some time).Hopeyou canvisualise what I am saying.This is pure common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted May 13, 2013 Staff Share Posted May 13, 2013 Through time and "rough use" such wires may even sag as shown in the attached example.Of course if, frequent inspection and adding more cross supports can further help as preventive situation. Quote On 4/28/2013 7:27:43 PM, Anonymous wrote:Install invisible grille + casementwindows + open and close the windowsdaily = hairless hands!On 4/28/20133:49:34 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:Thereis another aspect to consider wheninstalling grilles.For example, if ahome uses sliding windows, then (intheory) it is preferred that thegrillesare horizontal with minimalverticalsupport pieces. This isbecause, itwould allow the slidingwindow(s) to bequickly (slide)opened orclosed.Imagine, if slidingwindows wereused and grilles arevertical, it makesit very difficultto open or close thewindows.In myopinion, such invisiblegrilles areunfriendly if casementwindowsare/were installed. This isbecause,for casement windows, ourhand(s)have to stretch out to openpartially or fully opened. In doingso,for most of us our (skin wouldscrape)the wire grille. AND in notime,especially for us man, itwould resultin having the hairs onour hands beingscraped away. Thismay be good for agirl. But for usman, some may thinkthat we areeither hairless or mistakenotherwise....On 4/28/2013 9:10:46AM,Cecil Lee wrote:Pardon mefor therough sketch.It showsachild withhis full body weight withboth handshanding on the thinwire. Andheplaced his headbetween two wires.Donote:1. Ofcourse, the manufactureorinstaller will always claim thatit issafe.2. Like everything,thereis the"wear and tear"part. Whereif a childwere tofrequently playor swing himselfon the wires.3. Italso dependson thelength of thegrille. Thelonger thehorizontallength,the greater is theconcernof itflexing more.4. Sunlight.Asthewires are made of some kind ofmetal, there can be expansionthroughthe years especially iftheunitdirectly faces theafternoonsun. On4/28/20139:03:42 AM, CecilLee wrote:Invisible grilles arepliablewires that arestrung along windows eitherhorizontal or vertical.Howoftenwe see a young childorseveralchildren hangonto aline or such awire.In thelong term, e.g.as thisapartment haswindows that arewestfacing, there may befrequent expansion andcontraction of these wirelines.(Wear and tear).Andifchildren weretofrequentlyplay on these wires;one daythe wire(s) may bemore andmore pliable. Andif the wiresare hunghorizontally, oneday,anunfortunate child'shead mayjustget stuck inbetween aset of thewires =suffocation.Placing thesewires vertical is harder. Asachild cannot use his wholebodyweight to "loosen /cure"the wiresas much asone whichhangs on to thewire causingit to warpsignificantly(after sometime).Hopeyou canvisualisewhat I am saying.This ispure common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted May 15, 2013 Staff Share Posted May 15, 2013 The text describes a mock-up at The Estuary showing the internal organs of an invisible grille. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted May 16, 2017 Author Staff Share Posted May 16, 2017 The main concern with vertical invisible grilles is the safety of young children, as they may be tempted to hang on them. It is important to consider alternative safety measures or supervision to prevent accidents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted September 27, 2018 Author Staff Share Posted September 27, 2018 1. It is possible to educate young children and their siblings about the importance of avoiding the area near invisible grilles, should they be present. 2. Additionally, another method to prevent accidents is to provide further education on the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 13, 2019 Author Staff Share Posted October 13, 2019 How about roller blinds? 1. Roller blinds often feature cords, whether they are hidden within beads or exposed strings. 2. It is important to ensure that the bed is not positioned near these cords to prevent any accidents. 3. One can envision a scenario where a loose cord could potentially pose a risk of entangling a child's head, highlighting the importance of safety measures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted October 13, 2019 Author Staff Share Posted October 13, 2019 Many Feng Shui concepts have it's roots in pure Common sense! Many Feng Shui Masters are actually a Salesperson with a Feng Shui Store in disguise. Recognise that their motive is only to Sell, sell, sell and make$$$, make$$$ make$$$! Ask: Must I buy from you? Spread the word to your relatives and friends. When the buying Stops!, the selling Can! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted December 22, 2019 Author Staff Share Posted December 22, 2019 Case Study: Any concern if blinds are installed? 1. Ensure that the bed is positioned at a safe distance from the roller blind cords to prevent any risk of suffocation. 2. If the ceiling fan is in operation, the blinds may move and create noise by hitting the window frame or glass, potentially disrupting a peaceful night's rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted January 21, 2020 Author Staff Share Posted January 21, 2020 1. This case study revolves around a degree that is perpetually free of charge. 2. The focus is on practicality rather than Feng Shui principles or methods. 3. The premise is rooted in straightforward logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted July 22, 2020 Author Staff Share Posted July 22, 2020 1. Acquire a dependable product. 2. Instruct children to avoid the invisible grille and not to hang or play on it. 3. Routinely inspect for any loose or sagging cables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted September 14, 2020 Author Staff Share Posted September 14, 2020 Another practical idea... My windows are low and open. Doesn’t matter right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted January 30, 2023 Author Staff Share Posted January 30, 2023 Advised them to reconsider their decision, as unlike condominium executive condominiums, they are not obligated to install such grilles. I have previously expressed my reservations about installing invisible grilles, although I am not affiliated with this advertisement. I repeat, I have no association whatsoever with this AD’s company! Nor seen as endorsing this business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted July 1, 2023 Author Staff Share Posted July 1, 2023 It is typical for the steel wire to become loose over time, particularly in the case of blinds. Source and Credit: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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