My son is panning to get married

[myfs_148934]

Dear Master ,
My son is planning to get married in Nov - Jan 2015. There will be one Chinese customary and church wedding (the groom side) in Malaysia and then one Thai customary wedding ceremony (the bride side) in Thailand.
(1) Is this in the right sequence or it does not matter? If they do the Thai wedding ceremony first, so considered already married and hence cannot marry in church?
(2) The bride's Thai ceremony preferred on Sundays and has given 26/10/2014, 14/12/2014 & 21/12/2014 or 18 /1/2015 ? Are they good dates?
(3) For the groom's side, we plan for 22 Nov 2014, hope this is auspicious
Groom: 10 Mar 1983, 12:05pm - Pig
Bride: 8 May, 5:47 am - Pig
Groom's Dad: Horse
Groom's Mom: Horse
Bride's Dad: Deceased
Bride's Mom: No info
Appreciate your advice.

[Cecil Lee]

In my opinion, this area is based on each individual's interpretation. Or rather, there is no "encylopedia britannica" on this subject.
Perhaps, if you were to ask different people for their views; it can be varied.
From a Chinese perspective: a concerned parent may often try their best to select an auspicious date. Thus at your side; you may have in control or a say in their auspicious dates. At times, some don't have control over dates on their in-laws side.
Since you already have specific dates; and if you have already checked that they are auspicious; this is considered "Nice-to" already.
Of course morally, in traditional times, western weddings imply wearing white = purity. Morally, a couple are suppose not to consummate before marriage. So if we strictly consider a church, a church cannot control one's "purity". Nor consider whether is there a specific order of their marriage.
In my opinion, it does not matter. So long as the process is not stressful especially to the joyous couple. I feel this is already a plus point.
"26/10/2014,

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14/12/2014 & 21/12/2014 or
18 /1/2015 ? Are they good
dates? (3) For the groom's
side, we plan for 22 Nov 2014,
hope this is auspiciousGroom:
10 Mar 1983, 12:05pm -
PigBride: 8 May, 5:47 am -
PigGroom's Dad: HorseGroom's
Mom: HorseBride's Dad:
DeceasedBride's Mom: No
infoAppreciate your
advice.

[myfs_148934]

Hi Master Cecil,
Thank you for your reply. For the groom side, the wedding is planned on 22 November, 2014 (prefer Saturday). It is an open day and seems to be good date. But in Tung Shu it mention suitable for open business, ground breaking, moving etc. But no mention of whether it is suitable or not suitable for wedding. Do we consider this date or another wedding date like 27 or 28 or 29 November?
Best regards,

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On 5/28/2014 4:41:56 AM, Anonymous wrote:
In my opinion, this area is
based on each individual's
interpretation. Or rather,
there is no "encylopedia
britannica" on this
subject.Perhaps, if you were
to ask different people for
their views; it can be
varied.From a Chinese
perspective: a concerned
parent may often try their
best to select an auspicious
date. Thus at your side; you
may have in control or a say
in their auspicious dates. At
times, some don't have control
over dates on their in-laws
side.Since you already have
specific dates; and if you
have already checked that they
are auspicious; this is
considered "Nice-to"
already.Of course morally, in
traditional times, western
weddings imply wearing white =
purity. Morally, a couple are
suppose not to consummate
before marriage. So if we
strictly consider a church, a
church cannot control one's
"purity". Nor consider whether
is there a specific order of
their marriage.In my
opinion, it does not matter.
So long as the process is not
stressful especially to the
joyous couple. I feel this is
already a plus
point."26/10/2014,
14/12/2014 &
21/12/2014 or
18 /1/2015 ? Are they good
dates? (3) For the groom's
side, we plan for 22 Nov
2014,
hope this is
auspiciousGroom:
10 Mar 1983, 12:05pm -
PigBride: 8 May, 5:47 am -
PigGroom's Dad:
HorseGroom's
Mom: HorseBride's Dad:
DeceasedBride's Mom: No
infoAppreciate your
advice.

[Cecil Lee]

Please refer to your previous posting. And my reply, here:http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=33565&new=
What you mentioned in this message is beyond this free General advice forum. As someone has to work out and confirm.....

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On 6/3/2014 9:01:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Hi Master Cecil,Thank you for your
reply. For the groom side, the wedding
is planned on 22 November, 2014 (prefer
Saturday). It is an open day and seems
to be good date. But in Tung Shu it
mention suitable for open business,
ground breaking, moving etc. But no
mention of whether it is suitable or not
suitable for wedding. Do we consider
this date or another wedding date like
27 or 28 or 29 November?Best regards,On
5/28/2014 4:41:56 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:
In my opinion, this area is
based on each individual's
interpretation. Or rather,
there is no "encylopedia
britannica" on this
subject.Perhaps, if you were
to ask different people for
their views; it can be
varied.From a Chinese
perspective: a concerned
parent may often try their
best to select an auspicious
date. Thus at your side; you
may have in control or a say
in their auspicious dates. At
times, some don't have control
over dates on their in-laws
side.Since you already have
specific dates; and if you
have already checked that they
are auspicious; this is
considered "Nice-to"
already.Of course morally, in
traditional times, western
weddings imply wearing white =
purity. Morally, a couple are
suppose not to consummate
before marriage. So if we
strictly consider a church, a
church cannot control one's
"purity". Nor consider whether
is there a specific order of
their marriage.In my
opinion, it does not matter.
So long as the process is not
stressful especially to the
joyous couple. I feel this is
already a plus
point."26/10/2014,
14/12/2014 &
21/12/2014 or
18 /1/2015 ? Are they good
dates? (3) For the groom's
side, we plan for 22 Nov
2014,
hope this is
auspiciousGroom:
10 Mar 1983, 12:05pm -
PigBride: 8 May, 5:47 am -
PigGroom's Dad:
HorseGroom's
Mom: HorseBride's Dad:
DeceasedBride's Mom: No
infoAppreciate your
advice.

[Cecil Lee]

This link shows a simple illustration chart between how Tung Shu vs Ba Zi select auspicious dates
For some persons, selected ba zi dates coincide with the Tung Shu dates. For many others, since the dates are personalised to them and their partner; what is good in the Tung Shu may not necessary be good, here.
Thus ideally, my advice is; if one were to use one method; one may be surprised to learn that it may not be good in the Tung Shu. Best to either say: I will pick dates based on e.g. Tung Shu (full stop.) Or if one chooses dates based on ba zi; then stop looking at the Tung Shu!
This is simplistic chart showing the key differences between Tung Shu vs Ba Zi methods
http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=6&mid=33567

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On 6/3/2014 7:24:55 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Please refer to your previous posting.
And my reply,
here:http://forum.geomancy.net/php
forum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=33565&
new=What you mentioned in this message
is beyond this free General advice
forum. As someone has to work out and
confirm.....On 6/3/2014 9:01:44 AM,
Anonymous wrote:
Hi Master Cecil,Thank you for your
reply. For the groom side, the
wedding
is planned on 22 November, 2014
(prefer
Saturday). It is an open day and
seems
to be good date. But in Tung Shu it
mention suitable for open business,
ground breaking, moving etc. But no
mention of whether it is suitable or
not
suitable for wedding. Do we consider
this date or another wedding date
like
27 or 28 or 29 November?Best
regards,On
5/28/2014 4:41:56 AM, Cecil Lee
wrote:
In my opinion, this area is
based on each individual's
interpretation. Or rather,
there is no "encylopedia
britannica" on this
subject.Perhaps, if you were
to ask different people for
their views; it can be
varied.From a Chinese
perspective: a concerned
parent may often try their
best to select an auspicious
date. Thus at your side; you
may have in control or a say
in their auspicious dates. At
times, some don't have control
over dates on their in-laws
side.Since you already have
specific dates; and if you
have already checked that they
are auspicious; this is
considered "Nice-to"
already.Of course morally, in
traditional times, western
weddings imply wearing white =
purity. Morally, a couple are
suppose not to consummate
before marriage. So if we
strictly consider a church, a
church cannot control one's
"purity". Nor consider whether
is there a specific order of
their marriage.In my
opinion, it does not matter.
So long as the process is not
stressful especially to the
joyous couple. I feel this is
already a plus
point."26/10/2014,
14/12/2014 &
21/12/2014 or
18 /1/2015 ? Are they good
dates? (3) For the groom's
side, we plan for 22 Nov
2014,
hope this is
auspiciousGroom:
10 Mar 1983, 12:05pm -
PigBride: 8 May, 5:47 am -
PigGroom's Dad:
HorseGroom's
Mom: HorseBride's Dad:
DeceasedBride's Mom: No
infoAppreciate your
advice.