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Cecil Lee

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"White noise" and Costa Ris HDB flats...
In my opinion, I find the way the Blocks of flats that were "laid" out in this development may contribute to having more stacks/flats in this unit - experiencing louder than usual "white noise" from the daily MRT trains passing through.
Maybe, the architect believes in the concept of "shared-responsibility for the noise".It is a pity that there is only ONE MSCP car park i.e. Block 526 to shield the estate from MRT train noise.Too bad and what a pity, this is the only car park. But not enough to shield the entire estate from the mrt train noise.
In many other developments; especially the new condo developments near to Lakeside MRT such as the Caspian and Lakeholmz condo; the blocks are lined-up such that only the NW facing flats "enjoy" the loudest noise i.e. closest and parallel to the MRT track. Even the newer Lakefront residences also share this same concept.
One notable difference between Caspian, Lakeholmz and Lakefront residences are that these are "private" condos. And perhaps: "YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET".
While maybe, HDB Costa Ris is pehaps a public housing? And this is why? the mrt train noise should be shared "equally" amongst as many stacks/flats as possible? Hmmm...
What can I do if I stay there? Really no choice! Have to get used to it. At least the good news or consolation is that it should stop after 12pm on normal days other than weekends or a holiday.


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On one side, it is sandwiched by the busy link road: Pasir Ris Drive 8 and on the other boundary is the noisy MRT track. Which do you prefer: The devil or the deep blue sea... for many .. phew! None! Skip this development, totally...
HDB Costa Ris layout of the blocks in the estate; allows more mrt train noise to "affect" more stacks/flats then otherwise in some other developments.

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On 12/12/2014 1:40:18 PM, Anonymous wrote:
"White noise" and Costa Ris
HDB flats...In my opinion, I
find the way the Blocks of
flats that were "laid" out in
this development may
contribute to having more
stacks/flats in this unit -
experiencing louder than usual
"white noise" from the daily
MRT trains passing
through.Maybe, the architect
believes in the concept of
"shared-responsibility for the
noise".It is a pity that
there is only ONE MSCP car
park i.e. Block 526 to
shield the estate from MRT
train noise.Too bad and
what a pity, this is the only
car park. But not enough to
shield the entire estate from
the mrt train noise.In many
other developments; especially
the new condo developments
near to Lakeside MRT such as
the Caspian and Lakeholmz
condo; the blocks are lined-up
such that only the NW facing
flats "enjoy" the loudest
noise i.e. closest and
parallel to the MRT track.
Even the newer Lakefront
residences also share this
same concept.One notable
difference between Caspian,
Lakeholmz and Lakefront
residences are that these are
"private" condos. And perhaps:
"YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU
GET".While maybe, HDB
Costa Ris is pehaps a public
housing? And this is why? the
mrt train noise should be
shared "equally" amongst as
many stacks/flats as possible?
Hmmm...What can I do if I stay
there? Really no choice! Have
to get used to it. At least
the good news or consolation
is that it should stop after
12pm on normal days other than
weekends or a holiday.


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All of us share the noise (mrt trains) and It SUCKS!

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On 12/12/2014 1:47:58 PM, Anonymous wrote:
On one side, it is sandwiched by the
busy link road: Pasir Ris Drive 8 and on
the other boundary is the noisy MRT
track. Which do you prefer: The devil or
the deep blue sea... for many .. phew!
None! Skip this development,
totally...HDB Costa Ris layout of the
blocks in the estate; allows more mrt
train noise to "affect" more
stacks/flats then otherwise in some
other developments.On 12/12/2014 1:40:18
PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
"White noise" and Costa Ris
HDB flats...In my opinion, I
find the way the Blocks of
flats that were "laid" out in
this development may
contribute to having more
stacks/flats in this unit -
experiencing louder than usual
"white noise" from the daily
MRT trains passing
through.Maybe, the architect
believes in the concept of
"shared-responsibility for the
noise".It is a pity that
there is only ONE MSCP car
park i.e. Block 526 to
shield the estate from MRT
train noise.Too bad and
what a pity, this is the only
car park. But not enough to
shield the entire estate from
the mrt train noise.In many
other developments; especially
the new condo developments
near to Lakeside MRT such as
the Caspian and Lakeholmz
condo; the blocks are lined-up
such that only the NW facing
flats "enjoy" the loudest
noise i.e. closest and
parallel to the MRT track.
Even the newer Lakefront
residences also share this
same concept.One notable
difference between Caspian,
Lakeholmz and Lakefront
residences are that these are
"private" condos. And perhaps:
"YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU
GET".While maybe, HDB
Costa Ris is pehaps a public
housing? And this is why? the
mrt train noise should be
shared "equally" amongst as
many stacks/flats as possible?
Hmmm...What can I do if I stay
there? Really no choice! Have
to get used to it. At least
the good news or consolation
is that it should stop after
12pm on normal days other than
weekends or a holiday.


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Singapore and it's 6.9M and recently... a possibility of a population of 10M.
Uniquely in Singapore:-
My one "normal" or regular photo that was not taken under paranomic view was able to squeeze in four separate developments!Coco Palms, Costa Ris, Dnest & The Palette
Just the other day, a client asked me; as they were staying in Pasir Ris on which are the better developments in Pasir Ris to buy...
I said, NO! As Pasir Ris to me is one long road i.e. Pasir Ris Drive 1 and it's drainage (road network) is unlike it's neighbour Tampines which has so many roads that can get in and out of it.
Today, this Pasir Ris, is like Punggol but it's internal organs all messed up.....Once a tranquil area is going to be packed like sardines in 2016 and 2017....

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On 12/12/2014 2:06:54 PM, Anonymous wrote:
All of us share the noise (mrt trains)
and It SUCKS!On 12/12/2014 1:47:58 PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
On one side, it is sandwiched by the
busy link road: Pasir Ris Drive 8
and on
the other boundary is the noisy MRT
track. Which do you prefer: The
devil or
the deep blue sea... for many ..
phew!
None! Skip this development,
totally...HDB Costa Ris layout of
the
blocks in the estate; allows more
mrt
train noise to "affect" more
stacks/flats then otherwise in some
other developments.On 12/12/2014
1:40:18
PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
"White noise" and Costa Ris
HDB flats...In my opinion, I
find the way the Blocks of
flats that were "laid" out in
this development may
contribute to having more
stacks/flats in this unit -
experiencing louder than usual
"white noise" from the daily
MRT trains passing
through.Maybe, the architect
believes in the concept of
"shared-responsibility for the
noise".It is a pity that
there is only ONE MSCP car
park i.e. Block 526 to
shield the estate from MRT
train noise.Too bad and
what a pity, this is the only
car park. But not enough to
shield the entire estate from
the mrt train noise.In many
other developments; especially
the new condo developments
near to Lakeside MRT such as
the Caspian and Lakeholmz
condo; the blocks are lined-up
such that only the NW facing
flats "enjoy" the loudest
noise i.e. closest and
parallel to the MRT track.
Even the newer Lakefront
residences also share this
same concept.One notable
difference between Caspian,
Lakeholmz and Lakefront
residences are that these are
"private" condos. And perhaps:
"YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU
GET".While maybe, HDB
Costa Ris is pehaps a public
housing? And this is why? the
mrt train noise should be
shared "equally" amongst as
many stacks/flats as possible?
Hmmm...What can I do if I stay
there? Really no choice! Have
to get used to it. At least
the good news or consolation
is that it should stop after
12pm on normal days other than
weekends or a holiday.


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Contrary to the design of the blocks within the new HDB estate of Costa Ris;
Lakeholmz & Caspian Condos are equally close to the MRT tracks.
Both Lakeholmz & Caspian condos; since their "rectangular" site length wise is the longest parallel to the tracks; these two developments decided to "sacrifice" a chunk of stacks that are NW facing to try and absorb the majority or the maximum noise for the development.
Of course, one can still hear mrt train noise from blocks 50 and 52 of Caspian. But already quite muted...
I still prefer this "some sacrificial lambs" instead of nearly everyone got "punished" by it.
For other plots of land like Tropical Springs in Simei; their plot of land are luckier as the instead of the length-wise is parallel to the MRT tracks; their small dimension width is instead, parallel to the tracks. And especially for this development; they placed their high-rise multi-storey car parks closest to the MRT tracks. Only 4 stacks are the closet to the mrt tracks. While the rest of the horse-shoe shaped stacks are furthest away from it. Thus, this is a well-though-out minimum sacrificial "site" as compared to the "slaughter of the lambs of the HDB Costa Ris site.

Quote
On 12/12/2014 2:50:13 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Singapore and it's 6.9M and recently...
a possibility of a population of
10M.Uniquely in Singapore:-My one
"normal" or regular photo that was not
taken under paranomic view was able to
squeeze in four separate
developments!Coco Palms, Costa
Ris, Dnest & The PaletteJust the
other day, a client asked me; as they
were staying in Pasir Ris on which are
the better developments in Pasir Ris to
buy...I said, NO! As Pasir Ris to me is
one long road i.e. Pasir Ris Drive 1 and
it's drainage (road network) is unlike
it's neighbour Tampines which has so
many roads that can get in and out of
it.Today, this Pasir Ris, is like
Punggol but it's internal organs all
messed up.....Once a tranquil area is
going to be packed like sardines in 2016
and 2017....On 12/12/2014 2:06:54 PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
All of us share the noise (mrt
trains)
and It SUCKS!On 12/12/2014 1:47:58
PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
On one side, it is sandwiched by
the
busy link road: Pasir Ris Drive
8
and on
the other boundary is the noisy
MRT
track. Which do you prefer: The
devil or
the deep blue sea... for many ..
phew!
None! Skip this development,
totally...HDB Costa Ris layout
of
the
blocks in the estate; allows
more
mrt
train noise to "affect" more
stacks/flats then otherwise in
some
other developments.On 12/12/2014
1:40:18
PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
"White noise" and Costa Ris
HDB flats...In my opinion, I
find the way the Blocks of
flats that were "laid" out
in
this development may
contribute to having more
stacks/flats in this unit -
experiencing louder than
usual
"white noise" from the daily
MRT trains passing
through.Maybe, the architect
believes in the concept of
"shared-responsibility for
the
noise".It is a pity
that
there is only ONE MSCP car
park i.e. Block 526 to
shield the estate from MRT
train noise.Too bad
and
what a pity, this is the
only
car park. But not enough to
shield the entire estate
from
the mrt train noise.In many
other developments;
especially
the new condo developments
near to Lakeside MRT such as
the Caspian and Lakeholmz
condo; the blocks are
lined-up
such that only the NW facing
flats "enjoy" the loudest
noise i.e. closest and
parallel to the MRT track.
Even the newer Lakefront
residences also share this
same concept.One notable
difference between Caspian,
Lakeholmz and Lakefront
residences are that these
are
"private" condos. And
perhaps:
"YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU
GET".While maybe, HDB
Costa Ris is pehaps a public
housing? And this is why?
the
mrt train noise should be
shared "equally" amongst as
many stacks/flats as
possible?
Hmmm...What can I do if I
stay
there? Really no choice!
Have
to get used to it. At least
the good news or consolation
is that it should stop after
12pm on normal days other
than
weekends or a holiday.


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The Palette Condo recently TOP


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On 12/12/2014 5:37:15 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Contrary to the design of the blocks
within the new HDB estate of Costa
Ris;Lakeholmz & Caspian Condos
are equally close to the MRT tracks.Both
Lakeholmz & Caspian condos; since
their "rectangular" site length wise is
the longest parallel to the tracks;
these two developments decided to
"sacrifice" a chunk of stacks that are
NW facing to try and absorb the majority
or the maximum noise for the
development.Of course, one can still
hear mrt train noise from blocks 50 and
52 of Caspian. But already quite
muted... I still prefer this "some
sacrificial lambs" instead of nearly
everyone got "punished" by it.For other
plots of land like Tropical Springs in
Simei; their plot of land are luckier as
the instead of the length-wise is
parallel to the MRT tracks; their small
dimension width is instead, parallel to
the tracks. And especially for this
development; they placed their high-rise
multi-storey car parks closest to the
MRT tracks. Only 4 stacks are the closet
to the mrt tracks. While the rest of the
horse-shoe shaped stacks are furthest
away from it. Thus, this is a
well-though-out minimum sacrificial
"site" as compared to the "slaughter of
the lambs of the HDB Costa Ris
site.On 12/12/2014 2:50:13 PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
Singapore and it's 6.9M and
recently...
a possibility of a population of
10M.Uniquely in Singapore:-My one
"normal" or regular photo that was
not
taken under paranomic view was able
to
squeeze in four separate
developments!Coco Palms, Costa
Ris, Dnest & The PaletteJust the
other day, a client asked me; as
they
were staying in Pasir Ris on which
are
the better developments in Pasir Ris
to
buy...I said, NO! As Pasir Ris to me
is
one long road i.e. Pasir Ris Drive 1
and
it's drainage (road network) is
unlike
it's neighbour Tampines which has so
many roads that can get in and out
of
it.Today, this Pasir Ris, is like
Punggol but it's internal organs all
messed up.....Once a tranquil area
is
going to be packed like sardines in
2016
and 2017....On 12/12/2014 2:06:54
PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
All of us share the noise (mrt
trains)
and It SUCKS!On 12/12/2014
1:47:58
PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:

On one side, it is
sandwiched by
the

busy link road: Pasir Ris
Drive
8
and on

the other boundary is the
noisy
MRT

track. Which do you prefer:
The
devil or

the deep blue sea... for
many ..
phew!

None! Skip this development,

totally...HDB Costa Ris
layout
of
the

blocks in the estate; allows
more
mrt

train noise to "affect" more

stacks/flats then otherwise
in
some

other developments.On
12/12/2014
1:40:18

PM, Cecil Lee wrote:

"White noise" and Costa
Ris

HDB flats...In my
opinion, I

find the way the Blocks
of

flats that were "laid"
out
in

this development may

contribute to having
more

stacks/flats in this
unit -

experiencing louder than
usual

"white noise" from the
daily

MRT trains passing

through.Maybe, the
architect

believes in the concept
of

"shared-responsibility
for
the

noise".It is a
pity
that

there is only ONE MSCP
car

park i.e. Block
526 to

shield the estate from
MRT

train noise.Too
bad
and

what a pity, this is the
only

car park. But not enough
to

shield the entire estate
from

the mrt train noise.In
many

other developments;
especially

the new condo
developments

near to Lakeside MRT
such as

the Caspian and
Lakeholmz

condo; the blocks are
lined-up

such that only the NW
facing

flats "enjoy" the
loudest

noise i.e. closest and

parallel to the MRT
track.

Even the newer Lakefront

residences also share
this

same concept.One notable

difference between
Caspian,

Lakeholmz and Lakefront

residences are that
these
are

"private" condos. And
perhaps:

"YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU

GET".While maybe,
HDB

Costa Ris is pehaps a
public

housing? And this is
why?
the

mrt train noise should
be

shared "equally" amongst
as

many stacks/flats as
possible?

Hmmm...What can I do if
I
stay

there? Really no choice!
Have

to get used to it. At
least

the good news or
consolation

is that it should stop
after

12pm on normal days
other
than

weekends or a
holiday.


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On 12/12/2014 at 9:40 PM, Cecil Lee said:

 

"White noise" and Costa Ris HDB flats...
In my opinion, I find the way the Blocks of flats that were "laid" out in this development may contribute to having more stacks/flats in this unit - experiencing louder than usual "white noise" from the daily MRT trains passing through.
Maybe, the architect believes in the concept of "shared-responsibility for the noise".It is a pity that there is only ONE MSCP car park i.e. Block 526 to shield the estate from MRT train noise.Too bad and what a pity, this is the only car park. But not enough to shield the entire estate from the mrt train noise.
In many other developments; especially the new condo developments near to Lakeside MRT such as the Caspian and Lakeholmz condo; the blocks are lined-up such that only the NW facing flats "enjoy" the loudest noise i.e. closest and parallel to the MRT track. Even the newer Lakefront residences also share this same concept.
One notable difference between Caspian, Lakeholmz and Lakefront residences are that these are "private" condos. And perhaps: "YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET".
While maybe, HDB Costa Ris is pehaps a public housing? And this is why? the mrt train noise should be shared "equally" amongst as many stacks/flats as possible? Hmmm...
What can I do if I stay there? Really no choice! Have to get used to it. At least the good news or consolation is that it should stop after 12pm on normal days other than weekends or a holiday.

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Nowadays, in my opinion, many of the newer generation trains runs quieter.

Plus at many stretches, LTA installs sound insulation panels.

Thus I believe, noise levels should be a few decibels lower, today.  

The other limitation is often trains need to brake... and perhaps if the trains start to brake at around the vicinity of HDB Costa Ris; this may account for more noise than usual trains just running to and fro.


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