myfs_159814 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 hello I am bit confused. On your forum the day is the most important to take into account.My animals of day and year clash. what impact does it have?and I heard my day was not in good environment with the month animal.any hint?Thank you if you reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted December 17, 2014 Staff Share Posted December 17, 2014 These are some considerations:1. Generally an authentic Ba Zi chart in the past consists of Eight pillars. Please see attachment where there are a total of 8 pillars consisting of : 1.1. Year, Month, Day, Hour, House of Life and House of Conception2. Please note that not only is the Year and Day are important; in a true Ba Zi analysis: in the attachment, each Heavenly Stem (HS) has to interact with each Earthly Branch (EB):2.1. For example: the relationship is shown in the RED "web" in the attachment.3. In the past, traditionally, a proper chart such as above that has all the "pillars" could take as much as a few weeks to work out to examine the "harms, punishments, clashes etc..."3.1. Nowadays, in modern times; if programmed properly; a computer will be able to do all the groundwork and leave us with quality time to analyse the results.3.2. In addition the House of Life is equally important as it can determine whether one is a "weak" or "strong" element....4. Further to what I mentioned: although one can use the same term: "Four Pillars or Ba Zi" but some are just too basic while few would bother to do a ba zi with additional fields : House of Life and House of Conception.4.1. In a full chart: it is like analysing 6 variables under Heavenly Stem YYYY / MM / DD / HH / Life / Conception with another 6 variables under Earthly Branch.5. In order to find out the impact if any of not only the day and year clash; you have to do your "homework" and work out a ba zi report. It is not so simple as posting a few lines of text.... and presto... the next login... the answers will appear..... someone has to work out the ba zi report.. first.. before... analysing it.. - this is the fact. Quote On 12/17/2014 10:55:31 PM, Anonymous wrote:hello I am bit confused. Onyour forum the day is the mostimportant to take intoaccount.My animals of day andyear clash. what impact doesit have?and I heard my day wasnot in good environment withthe month animal.anyhint?Thank you if you reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted December 17, 2014 Staff Share Posted December 17, 2014 Effort is needed, here Quote On 12/17/2014 11:32:42 PM, Anonymous wrote:These are some considerations:1.Generally an authentic Ba Zi chart inthe past consists of Eight pillars.Please see attachment where there are atotal of 8 pillars consisting of :1.1. Year, Month, Day, Hour, Houseof Life and House of Conception2. Pleasenote that not only is the Year and Dayare important; in a true Ba Zi analysis:in the attachment, each Heavenly Stem(HS) has to interact with each EarthlyBranch (EB):2.1. For example: therelationship is shown in the RED "web"in the attachment.3. In the past,traditionally, a proper chart such asabove that has all the "pillars" couldtake as much as a few weeks to work outto examine the "harms, punishments,clashes etc..."3.1. Nowadays, inmodern times; if programmed properly; acomputer will be able to do all thegroundwork and leave us with qualitytime to analyse the results.3.2. Inaddition the House of Life is equallyimportant as it can determine whetherone is a "weak" or "strong"element....4. Further to what Imentioned: although one can use the sameterm: "Four Pillars or Ba Zi" but someare just too basic while few wouldbother to do a ba zi with additionalfields : House of Life and House ofConception.4.1. In a full chart:it is like analysing 6 variables underHeavenly Stem YYYY / MM / DD / HH / Life/ Conception with another 6 variablesunder Earthly Branch.5. In orderto find out the impact if any of notonly the day and year clash; you have todo your "homework" and work out a ba zireport. It is not so simple as posting afew lines of text.... and presto... thenext login... the answers willappear..... someone has to work out theba zi report.. first.. before...analysing it.. - this is the fact.On12/17/2014 10:55:31 PM, Anonymous wrote:hello I am bit confused. Onyour forum the day is the mostimportant to take intoaccount.My animals of day andyear clash. what impact doesit have?and I heard my day wasnot in good environment withthe month animal.anyhint?Thank you if you reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_159814 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Thank you for your insight.This makes sense. Quote On 12/17/2014 11:32:42 PM, Anonymous wrote: ... In orderto find out the impact if any of notonly the day and year clash; you have todo your "homework" and work out a ba zireport. It is not so simple as posting afew lines of text.... and presto... thenext login... the answers willappear..... someone has to work out theba zi report.. first.. before...analysing it.. - this is the fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted December 22, 2014 Staff Share Posted December 22, 2014 Further to what I had mentioned:1. The concept of "more the better".1.1. Here, the more the inputs the better it is.1.2. What this means is that as mentioned previously, the most authentic Ba Zi chart, today is to analyse: Year, Month, Day, Hour, House of Life and House of Conception.1.3. House of life is important as some chart may be affected. For example, a geomancer who does not analyse the House of Life could interpret that the person is a "WEAK earth" person.1.3.1. But if the House of life was considered; this person could eventually instead be a "STRONG earth person.1.4. House of Conception is another area of consideration.. which.. I shall not dwell in this thread..2. Therefore, if one wants to "Do it"; try to do it properly and not using "superficial" ba zi that does not consider especially these two "Houses - Life and Conception".2.1. The word "Ba Zi" may sound the same but done by different people; they can be totally different. So, insist that a full chart is done for you. Quote On 12/22/2014 12:39:02 AM, Anonymous wrote:Thank you for your insight.This makessense. On 12/17/2014 11:32:42 PM, CecilLee wrote: ... In orderto find out the impact if any of notonly the day and year clash; youhave todo your "homework" and work out a bazireport. It is not so simple asposting afew lines of text.... and presto...thenext login... the answers willappear..... someone has to work outtheba zi report.. first.. before...analysing it.. - this is the fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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