Nine star ki system and kua number

[myfs_160454]

Hello, i would like to ask if anyone can explain which system shell I use, because according to nine star ki system -positive directions turn to negative in calculating Kua number, since in kua number it's specify your gender and in nine star ki system doesn't matter whether you are male or female. Thanks ..

[Cecil Lee]

These are some considerations:

1. In general, it is the consensus of most that the Compass School Feng Shui which includes the Kua & Flying Stars which also uses the nine sectors originated from China.

2. Somewhere, along the line; this was imported into Japan. And most likely, as you had mentioned; "turned upside down". Such that what is positive becomes negative and vice versa.

3. And yes, one should not try to mix the two: kua vs the nine star ki.

4. Today, especially around 1985 onwards; some British practitioners begin to adopt and apply the nine-star ki method.

4.1 And some find it to be a seamless "one-package" deal. Vs the traditional Feng Shui with so many modules: and not only the mastery but also Compass Schools ; 4 Pillars; Five Elements but the complexity of applying them. Here, there are many who still cannot grasp all of the concepts.

4.2 And in my opinion, this is why it has led some to find that they do not need to mix and match all the concepts as nine-star ki comes in a "lovely" package.

5. Do take note that it is best that if one is totally into the nine star ki - go forth and apply it as a "PACKAGE". And best advice is not to mix IT with what I mentioned under Para 1.

6. As you my site; of course, as a Chinese as well as a site that is considered as applying Traditional and authentic Chinese Feng Shui; you can expect a certain bias for the Chinese system.

6.1. There are lots of Feng Shui practitioners; here (Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand = Far East) that practises Para 1. And it is also in Taiwan, Hong Kong and now with the demise of communism; re-exported back to the origin China.

7. As you come from an European country and perhaps, may be more available to books (British authors) on nine-star ki; then it is more of a preference.

8. In the past, many of the Traditional Feng Shui such as the Kua (Gua) were written in Mandarin and appeal more to those who can comprehend Mandarin.

9. But nowadays, there is an abundance of and understanding of the Tradtional Feng Shui vs the nine-star ki. Thus, no excuse to really, specialise or go with the "horses" mouth than the nine-star ki.

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On 6/9/2015 8:53:38 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Hello, i would like to ask if
anyone can explain which
system shell I use, because
according to nine star ki
system -positive directions
turn to negative in
calculating Kua number, since
in kua number it's specify
your gender and in nine star
ki system doesn't matter
whether you are male or
female. Thanks ..

[Cecil Lee]

Traditional vs nine-star ki

1. This illustration shows at a glance; the major difference between the two.

2. On the right side of the illustration; one can see that the Traditional authentic Chinese system has lots of modules and concepts.

2.1 Not only one has to do homework to find out one's kua, one's best element and strength e.g. strong wood or weak wood etc... One also has to plot the Flying stars et...

3. Contrast this with the nine-star ki which comes packaged into one package.

3.1 This is perhaps the only advantage I consider the nine-star ki with: it has less of a steep knowledge curve as compared to the traditional that's all.

4. In my opinion, IT STILL retains one concept: THE FIVE ELEMENTS concept. Otherwise; it's a Japanese twist.

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On 6/9/2015 9:32:35 PM, Anonymous wrote:
These are some considerations:1. In
general, it is the consensus of most
that the Compass School Feng Shui which
includes the Kua & Flying Stars
which also uses the nine sectors
originated from China.2. Somewhere,
along the line; this was imported into
Japan. And most likely, as you had
mentioned; "turned upside down". Such
that what is positive becomes negative
and vice versa.3. And yes, one should
not try to mix the two: kua vs the nine
star ki.4. Today, especially around 1985
onwards; some British practitioners
begin to adopt and apply the nine-star
ki method. 4.1 And some find it to be a
seamless "one-package" deal. Vs the
traditional Feng Shui with so many
modules: and not only the mastery but
also Compass Schools ; 4 Pillars; Five
Elements but the complexity of applying
them. Here, there are many who still
cannot grasp all of the concepts.4.2 And
in my opinion, this is why it has led
some to find that they do not need to
mix and match all the concepts as
nine-star ki comes in a "lovely"
package.5. Do take note that it is best
that if one is totally into the nine
star ki - go forth and apply it as a
"PACKAGE". And best advice is not to mix
IT with what I mentioned under Para 1.6.
As you my site; of course, as a Chinese
as well as a site that is considered as
applying Traditional and authentic
Chinese Feng Shui; you can expect a
certain bias for the Chinese system.6.1.
There are lots of Feng Shui
practitioners; here (Singapore, Malaysia
and Thailand = Far East) that practises
Para 1. And it is also in Taiwan, Hong
Kong and now with the demise of
communism; re-exported back to the
origin China.7. As you come from an
European country and perhaps, may be
more available to books (British
authors) on nine-star ki; then it is
more of a preference.8. In the past,
many of the Traditional Feng Shui such
as the Kua (Gua) were written in
Mandarin and appeal more to those who
can comprehend Mandarin.9. But nowadays,
there is an abundance of and
understanding of the Tradtional Feng
Shui vs the nine-star ki. Thus, no
excuse to really, specialise or go with
the "horses" mouth than the nine-star
ki.On 6/9/2015 8:53:38 PM, Anonymous
wrote:
Hello, i would like to ask
if
anyone can explain which
system
shell I use, because
according to
nine star ki
system -positive
directions
turn to negative
in
calculating Kua number,
since
in kua number it's
specify
your gender and in nine
star
ki system doesn't
matter
whether you are male
or
female. Thanks ..

[myfs_160454]

Thanks a lot.

I think I will go with traditional feng shui from China.i will try to apply Bagua map,4 Pillar etc.....Could you please guide me how to do that correctly?Since there are a lot of information on the Internet from different sites, sometimes I get confused. ActuallyI had a consultant here in Denmark which uses Nine star ki and Bagua map on our house, but in a bit different way than I have seen before and in one of the kids rooms the most available space for furnitures in this room are the negative directions for my girl according to nine star ki. using Kua number for this room the directions are positive .

[Cecil Lee]

Past write-up on 9 star ki:-

http://forum.geomancy.net/resources/art/art-ninestar.htm

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On 6/9/2015 9:49:49 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Traditional vs nine-star ki1. This
illustration shows at a glance; the
major difference between the two.2. On
the right side of the illustration; one
can see that the Traditional authentic
Chinese system has lots of modules and
concepts.2.1 Not only one has to do
homework to find out one's kua, one's
best element and strength e.g. strong
wood or weak wood etc... One also has to
plot the Flying stars et...3. Contrast
this with the nine-star ki which comes
packaged into one package. 3.1 This is
perhaps the only advantage I consider
the nine-star ki with: it has less of a
steep knowledge curve as compared to the
traditional that's all. 4. In my
opinion, IT STILL retains one concept:
THE FIVE ELEMENTS concept. Otherwise;
it's a Japanese twist.On 6/9/2015
9:32:35 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
These
are some considerations:1.
In
general, it is the consensus of
most
that the Compass School Feng
Shui which
includes the Kua &
Flying Stars
which also uses the nine
sectors
originated from China.2.
Somewhere,
along the line; this was
imported into
Japan. And most likely,
as you had
mentioned; "turned upside
down". Such
that what is positive
becomes negative
and vice versa.3.
And yes, one should
not try to mix
the two: kua vs the nine
star ki.4.
Today, especially around
1985
onwards; some British
practitioners
begin to adopt and
apply the nine-star
ki method. 4.1
And some find it to be a
seamless
"one-package" deal. Vs
the
traditional Feng Shui with so
many
modules: and not only the
mastery but
also Compass Schools ; 4
Pillars; Five
Elements but the
complexity of applying
them. Here,
there are many who still
cannot grasp
all of the concepts.4.2 And
in my
opinion, this is why it has led
some
to find that they do not need to
mix
and match all the concepts
as
nine-star ki comes in a
"lovely"
package.5. Do take note that
it is best
that if one is totally
into the nine
star ki - go forth and
apply it as a
"PACKAGE". And best
advice is not to mix
IT with what I
mentioned under Para 1.6.
As you my
site; of course, as a Chinese
as well
as a site that is considered
as
applying Traditional and
authentic
Chinese Feng Shui; you can
expect a
certain bias for the Chinese
system.6.1.
There are lots of Feng
Shui
practitioners; here (Singapore,
Malaysia
and Thailand = Far East)
that practises
Para 1. And it is also
in Taiwan, Hong
Kong and now with the
demise of
communism; re-exported back
to the
origin China.7. As you come
from an
European country and perhaps,
may be
more available to books
(British
authors) on nine-star ki;
then it is
more of a preference.8. In
the past,
many of the Traditional
Feng Shui such
as the Kua (Gua) were
written in
Mandarin and appeal more
to those who
can comprehend
Mandarin.9. But nowadays,
there is an
abundance of and
understanding of the
Tradtional Feng
Shui vs the nine-star
ki. Thus, no
excuse to really,
specialise or go with
the "horses"
mouth than the nine-star
ki.On
6/9/2015 8:53:38 PM,
Anonymous
wrote:
Hello, i would
like to ask
if
anyone can explain
which
system
shell I use,
because
according to
nine star
ki
system
-positive
directions
turn to
negative
in
calculating Kua
number,
since
in kua number
it's
specify
your gender and in
nine
star
ki system
doesn't
matter
whether you are
male
or
female. Thanks ..

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Mirena Nikolova,
> I think I will go with traditional feng shui from China.i will try to apply Bagua map,4 Pillar etc.....Could you please guide me how to do that correctly?Since there are a lot of information on the Internet from different sites, sometimes I get confused. ActuallyI had a consultant here in Denmark which uses Nine star ki and Bagua map on our house, but in a bit different way than I have seen before and in one of the kids rooms the most available space for furnitures in this room are the negative directions for my girl according to nine star ki. using Kua number for this room the directions are positive .Feel free to use Geomancy.net's full range of free tools (Eight House/Ba Zi/Flying Star) in our Member area:-http://login.geomancy.netAnd learning resources which you can read up:-http://www.geomancy.net/resources/theories/fs-tour.htmBut you will need to spend some time to read them in order to learn and understand the various tools and application.If you are looking looking for to apply them immediately hassle free, we can also help you on that. We have the offsite feng shui consultation service to help our international clients who wants our professional advise on your home:-URL: http://www.geomancy.net/products/home-consultation/home-consultation.htmEither way, you will be able to find the various tools and resources on our website.Hope that helps.Warmest RegardsRobert LeeGEOMANCY.NET: Center for Applied Feng Shui Researchhttp://www.geomancy.netE-mail: support@geomancy.net,

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On 6/10/2015 12:33:45 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Thanks a lot.I think I will go
with traditional feng shui
from China.i will try to apply
Bagua map,4 Pillar
etc.....Could you please guide
me how to do that
correctly?Since there are a
lot of information on the
Internet from different sites,
sometimes I get confused.
ActuallyI had a consultant
here in Denmark which uses
Nine star ki and Bagua
map on our house, but in a bit
different way than I have seen
before and in one of the kids
rooms the most available space
for furnitures in this room
are the negative directions
for my girl according to nine
star ki. using Kua
number for this room the
directions are positive
.