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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02FB_01BED690.DC49A080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Jerry, This is where you are wrong. Many Feng Shui Masters can do the Ba Zhi even without the Hour of birth especially when it is not known like in this case. And from the 3 pillars it is possible to deduce the hour of birth from looking at the major events that had happened. The most important Birth Element comes from the day of birth. If you do not have the day, month, year of birth or gender then I can say "sorry, there is no way one can do a proper Pillars of Destiny". For example, Raymond Lo has also done Pillars of Destiny calculations for famous people without time of birth. Similiarly many Masters have also done Pillars of Destiny without the time of birth when they are unable to obtain them. For example Master Zhao of China, Master Liang of Hong Kong and many other Masters have done pillars without the time of birth when they are unknown, in such cases you see the hour of birth left with a X. This is normally done when the details of the hour of birth are not available. The pillars resources and case studies are provided to help users understand Pillars better. Without the hour of birth, what one lack is one earthly branches and one heavenly stem. This only means that there will be at least 2 ten deities, some hidden elements and hidden deities which we cannot made known and that some additional combinations (especially 3 combination and double combination) may not occur. But, without hour of birth the Luck Pillars will still not change because it is deduced from the month of birth and the year of birth and gender. The various Ten Deities already deduced will not change as well. What is important is knowing how to interpret the details provided by the 6 or 8 pillars. Bill Gates Chart was chosen because, many users often asked us about wealth, and we wanted to show them how they can utilise such info with his chart. This was to provide a case study for users to understand a Pillars Report better and not all areas were fully analysed. We should not be merely `text' book oriented and have a one-track mind in thinking that Pillars must be calculated with all four: Year, Month, Day and Time. What is more important is to understand that in Real Life, not all people know their time of birth. For this reason, Pillars of Destiny has an " outlet " and therefore, if we do not know the time of birth, we can still do calculations. It is best that those who do not really know the true extent of Pillars do not `jump the gun'. Please check out http://www.geomancy.net/fs/pakua.htm which was written about two years back. It is not possible for one logo to have the Fu Xi's Former Heaven and Second Heaven Bagua. I am not sure what is your motive of saying such remarks especially on our site's Logo or graphics:- 1. These are not teaching materials but decorative icons of our site. 2. Learning resources are found at http://www.geomancy.net/fs/theory.htm This is a gentle reminder not to " flame " in this forum. We take a serious view against anyone flaming in the conference as most users here to learn rather than read messages with a `hidden' agenda. (I am specifically refering to comments on our Bagua logo). Warmest Regards, Cecil Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: Listmanager To: Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 8:29 AM Subject: Re: your sample report on pillars-of-destiny ------=_NextPart_000_02FB_01BED690.DC49A080--

Further to the message below the " exact " URL should be: http://www.geomancy.net/fs/photo1.htm Thanks. Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed> Date: Friday, July 23, 1999 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Is it appropiate to place toilet in the north sector ?

Dear Fraser, (This is not directed towards your message). I like to highlight that colours and its symbolish are secondary to Feng Shui. What is more important is to get the basics correct especially the following areas:- 1. Under the Shapes and Form School, it is best that the site enjoys good Feng Shui e.g. under the Four symbolic Animals Concept etc... 2. Under the Flying Star, there are no bad influences and if so, do correct them. 3. Any adverse sha or pointed arrows pointing towards your main entrance door or windows. The above are the main influences of Feng Shui. The rest like clothing etc... are secondary. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'feng-shui-tips' suppressed 'feng-shui-tips' suppressed> Date: Friday, July 23, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: Elements, directions & colours Part 4 location.

Dear Mr Teh, If you click on this URL: http://www.geomancy.net/fs/theory.htm, you will find an " old house " in Singapore that fits the Feng Shui model exactly. The above house is based on the `perfect' model of North = Water (bathroom), South (an octagon or fire roof) etc... Although in the above example, you will see that the bathroom is in the North, the old architects had cleverly placed the toilet bowl, off North or 0 degrees. Why is this so? The reason is because, generally the toilet bowl is inauspicious and by placing it on the cardinal points e.g. North, NE, East, SE, South, SW and NW, it may `land' on one of the e.g. personal directions of a person. To be more exact, in the above house, it also does not fall within 15 degree increments starting from 0 degrees so that it cannot land on one of the compass 24 directions of the Flying Star Chart where there are 24 directions. In Feng Shui, there is the Life Aspirations/Associations or Eight Associations where each direction is given a significance e.g. North = Career etc... We have in this forum mentioned that although " identifying " each sector is part of finding out the meaning of the various trigrams, it is not `valid' to use this so widely. Why? This is because using North = Career is like saying that you are using a fixed template. Unlike the Eight House Theory, where we have our personalised Gua Number, the Life Aspirations uses none. It is like saying that everyone's career sector is = North. If you examine it closely, if it is so simple as this, can it work? I had given an earlier example of three persons chasing a girl in the office. All three competition to place a rose etc.. at their romance corner. As there is only one girl, who will get her? Not possible three of `us'. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 7:50 PM Subject: Is it appropiate to place toilet in the north sector ?

Dear Shelley, Thank you for your valuable comments. Personally, wherever we can will continue to highlight the various practises and leave it to everyone to make their own personal judgement. Please see below:- -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 1:52 PM Subject: Conflicting Advice 1. On the use of the Ba Gua mirrors: In my personal opinion it is common for Chinese households to place the Ba Gua mirrors above their main door to `ward off evil'. Some of these Ba Gua mirrors also have A Twin Door God painted below it. However, as Feng Shui is internationalised, I am not sure how effective it is for other `Races' or `Religion' to use the mirrors. What I mean is that if it is `ward off evil', and if your region is predominantly Christian, I think `wandering ghosts' or `Christian ghosts' (pardon me if I mention this in a general sense), may not be afraid of such a configuration. In parts of Thailand and Indonesia where " black magic" is practised, some Chinese priests do i.e the Ba Gua to counter these. As I mention, this is my personal thoughts on the matter of using the Ba Gua mirror to `ward off' evil. My current opinion is that it MAY not be effective to `ward off evil' for races other than the " Chinese ". I am not sure if one is a Chinese in Canada or US and its effectiveness for them unless maybe in the predominant Chinatown area. Anyway I am just thinking out loud on the above. I may be wrong but this is what I truly feel. This is why, I prefer to use the Ba Gua mirror as a last resort. Only to counteract " Sha Qi ". Here Sha Qi or poison arrows are the same any where in the world. It is easier to apply it under this category. The Ba Gua mirror should not be installed inside a home as it is considered " overpowering " due to its Yang energy. If one has no knowledge of Feng Shui; find a nice wind chime and hang it up at a location. It is usually perfectly OK if you are using your personal feelings / instincts to place the wind chime. There are those who go to the extremes:- 1. Since they read from a book or several books that " wind chimes " are good, it is the tendency for human beings to go out and buy not one but a few wind chimes to hang in the home. This category of people who " read between " the lines need to be careful. In our personal `greed' to enrich ourselves, we ultimately tend to overdo it. No this is not true. You can hang wind chimes but there are a few factors to consider:- 1. Wind chimes are made of different materials and it may complicate things if you hire a `maverick' Feng Shui practioner out to make money. He/She will ultimately ask you to purchase not less than 2 or 3 or even more... Here it is akin to " over eating " which may cause heart problem, obsesity etc... In Feng Shui, there is a higher percentage that it will be placed at a location that may affect a person. 2. Hanging too many wind chimes can cause mental illness or sickness. If you have the time, try searching for " wind chime" and there are quite alot of correspondence of the ill effects of hanging too many wind chimes. 3. Try to avoid hanging wind chimes at " Yin " locations e.g. a tree at the back yard next to the cemetry etc... as the wrong wave length or sound may attract playful imps which may cause nightmares. This is commercial and no merits in Feng Shui. Go more for Interior Design aspect. If it is a large living room or high ceiling, it is ok to install a chandelier. This is based on Feng Shui by "six sense". You like it you by it. (Here, you do not even know that Feng shui has existed.) If one knows Feng Shui:- 1. Is the chandelier very large? If it is blends nicely in the living room, it is not "over powering". Get it if you want to. 2. If you are `pushed' into buying one, ask the Feng Shui practioner why SO? If the FS practioner says it is to enhance your Qi, then don't buy it. You do not need to enhance Feng Shui by buying and buying `decorations'. 3. Normally Chandelier's are more appropriate for larger premises e.g. those found in Hotels especially those built in the 1970s to 1980s. 4. It also depends on the crystal. If it is pointed and pointing downwards, it is equivalent of many poision arrows pointed downwards. 5. Symbolism in Feng Shui is equally important:- /\ / \ | | Anything that points upwards is auspicious but lighting pointing downwards is not auspicious. Warmest Regards, Cecil Lee

Dear Lisa, Frankly, this figurine is " remotely related " to Feng Shui. Under Chinese belief, yes, it should face `into' the house where one can accumulate luck. As for the placement, in general, place it at a location you personally feel comfortable with. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 5:26 AM Subject: 3 leg Toad

Dear Erika, In my opinion, I consider this more an `environmental issue'. Perhaps, you may have to " discuss " with your neighour whether it is possible to `redirect' this air e.g. using a funnel away from your home. If not, maybe your local authories can help. Overall, this is `new' to Feng Shui i.e. the modern invention of an exhaust fan, but it is generally inauspicious (bad Qi) and you should try to resolve it. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 1:23 AM Subject: neighbourly relations

Dear Brigitte, Thanks for bring up this interesting question:- 1. Human beings are very complex and currently there are many books written on human relationships, motivation, human interaction etc... but so far no book can explain in detail our personal interations. 2. Some situations are based on the maturity of the couples and the way they tolerate each other. 3. There are many influences on our lifes and relations such as our upbringing, education, personal experiences etc... This is why, sometimes our Pillars of Destiny i.e. our Heaven Chart based on our birth chart changes and this can be explained in an example:- If you do a search, I mentioned the Right and Left Brain Theory which relates to Yin and Yang. For Example, in a person's Pillars of Destiny chart, the child has lots of Yin elements. Here, it would suggest that the child is more artistic, more dimensional. However, if the child has a brillant mother or parent who develops the child's learning abilities e.g. in making mathematics interesting and later on, is great at maths and goes into other mathematical studies.... Here, you see that education changes the child's inclination through his/her interests etc... 4. For those who have studied management: it also depends on the situation and circumstances. For example, our interaction differs when we are relaxed as opposed to time constraints etc... As mentioned above, search for " brain " in this forum for more details on our " left and right brain " in relation to Yin and Yang concept. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'discussion-session' suppressed 'discussion-session' suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 8:07 AM Subject: East and West group people

Dear Joe, Symbolism in Feng Shui is equally important i.e. Blue symbolises " Water. " In the Book of I-Ching, Water means having difficulties:- 1. If an entire roof is covered with `water' (blue) one can imagine the amount of problems the household will get. The amount of `water' weighing down on one's home is enormous. 2. As I mentioned also that too much water in relation to the home e.g. greater than 33.3 percent is equally bad as too much water results in an Yin environment. 3. I have seen quite alot of occupants of houses with `blue' roofs facing difficulties and this correlates to what you have mentioned and to me, I believe it is bad to have blue tiled roof. 4. The ideal tiles are the `clay' orange or red hue tiles. What about Green? One should not purposely use Green roof tiles. But if so, it is ok because it symbolises `greenery'. A few years ago... I remembered one of my friends telling me that his house's `clay' (orange) tiles were covered in green algae during that time he had enormous luck winning lots of things etc... However, after he had the entire roof cleaned, things went to normal. He thus regretted cleaning away the `green' from the roof. (This does not mean that everyone will get lucky with green roofs.) One lesson here is that we cannot assume that all " water features " are auspicious to the household. If we are not careful, one can be " drowned " by water. Warmest Regards Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'feng-shui-tips' suppressed 'feng-shui-tips' suppressed> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 7:37 PM Subject: Staircase and toilet in center of house

Dear Ber, Frankly, so far I have not explored any sites that contain I-Ching on the Internet. Perhaps, you can go to any of the popular search engines and try to search for them. Off hand, I do not have with me books on I-Ching but if you go to any of the popular book stores, you should easily be able to find one or two books on I-Ching. Here you can start to `learn' how to use the I-Ching. More... 1. There are two methods of interpretating the meaning of the I-Ching: a. Some books have interpreted for you the meaning. b. Some use the 5 elements concept. What this means is that after you had `constructed' your I-Ching hexagram, you either use method a. or b. Method A. would depend on the quality of interpretation. Method B is similar to analysing the Five Elements - Productive and Destructive sequence. 2. Most books will teach you to think of a question, toss three coins each time.... The advanced I-Ching software are most likely developed in-house by Stock Traders and it is highly unlikely that they will sell these software .... perhaps, do try to search around. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Monday, July 19, 1999 5:11 PM Subject: Prediction

Dear Earth, Some of us can `tolerate' mirrors while others cannot. In your case, there are a few remedies:- 1. To get someone to install an opaque film on the mirrored sliding closet doors. This is very effective and costs little. 2. Alternatively, you can try to buy some posters and `scotched' taped them on the cupboard in such a way that they cannot be `seen'. However, you may need to replace the poster often or it may `drop' down due to the weight and in the long run unsigthly scotch tape stains. Warmest Regards Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 2:06 AM Subject: mirrors in bedroom

Dear Dekay, Please see below:- -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Saturday, July 17, 1999 5:44 AM Subject: my roofs are sloped Frankly, there is no effective cure for such a roof. Since it is not between the main door, this is OK. If it is between a window, you need to cure this. One way is to use `thicker' curtains. Warmest Regards, Cecil

Dear Dr Muthu, In practice, usually when a next door neighour has a main door that faces each other; one neighbour may place a Ba Gua (Pa Kua) concave mirror above the door. In such a situation, the neighbour has no choice but to use a convex mirror to conteract the concave mirror. The Ba Gua mirror depends on the thinking or mindset and the use varies with " different people ":- 1. Some practioners or practioners who combine Feng Shui with religion may go all out to advise each and every household they come in contact with to place a Ba Gua mirror above their house even if there is no sha qi or poision arrow. These group believe that by placing the Ba Gua mirror above the house, it wards off evil coming into the house. This group may advise one to place a Ba Gua mirror at the frontage of the house and not necessarily at the main entrance door. Sometimes, they may ask the household to use a regular mirror instead of the Ba Gua mirror. In my opinion, please take such advice with a pinch of salt. 2. Other practioners are " selective " and ONLY advise those to place a Ba Gua mirror to deflect poision arrow towards the main entrance door. If you are standing on the steps of your main entrance door and look out and notice that the tree is in direct line `slicing' part of your main door, then this is considered sha chi. Currently there are four methods of dealing with this (not in any order of importance):- 1. Change the angle of the door to face one of your best directions i.e. tilt the door to one that faces one of your good directions. This is said to `kill' two birds with one stone. 2. If your main entrance door is elevated, you can have semi-circular steps leading to the house. This is one technique of `radiating' sha ch' away from your main entrance. 3. Alternatively, if your main entrance is level to your external of the house, you could consider a specially made semi-circular carpet e.g. of half of a sun with it's fiery sunlight (spikes) radiating away from the main entrance door. 4. Hang a pakua above the main entrance door. However, in your case, so long as the posion arrow is not aimed at your main entrance door or a window at the frontage of the house, one should not be using a Ba Gua. My advise is if one is unsure to use the Ba Gua or not, then don't use it. This is because it is never wise to `play' with Feng Shui. It is best to get your basics correct e.g. your element and its strength; relate this with the Flying Star Chart of your house etc.... In your case, plants are the ideal situation for a barrier between your house and the road. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Saturday, July 17, 1999 5:44 PM Subject: Pa Kua mirror - convex or concave

Dear Marissa, Please see below:- -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Monday, July 19, 1999 1:44 AM Subject: bedroom colors There are three ways to go about doing the colour schemes:- 1. If unsure, use a neutral colour like white for the room. 2. The most accurate way is to:- Step 1: Look at the Flying Star Chart of the House. For example, if there is a Five Yellow or a bad 5 star at a location, it is best to avoid earth colours like yellow. If not, this will enhance the earth colour. Step 2: Your pillars element and its strength is important. For example, if you are a weak Fire person, you can paint the room `pink'. Alternatively if you are a Strong Fire person, you need to cool down by using light blue. 3. As a last resort, if you do not have any of the above, you may have to use your personal `instincts' and choose whatever colour you like but try to use pastel or light colours. Warmest Regards, Cecil

Dear Hanan, Please see below:- -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Friday, July 16, 1999 7:38 AM Subject: i need some help in my directions If you have a compass, you can find the exact direction of your toilet (mainly the toilet bowl). Where best it should not preferably at exact Compass directions e.g. 0 degrees, 45 degrees, 90 degrees, 135 degrees, 180 degrees, 225 degrees, 270 degrees, 315 degrees. This is because most likely if a toilet is at these locations, it may fall in one of the auspicious sectors. Warmest Regards, Cecil

Dear Boris, Based on your description, placing mortar would most likely not considered " major " as the structure of the house has been completed earlier. If you are doing a Flying Star chart, it is best to prepare two reports and see which is more accurate. Most likely your house fits Period 6 Chart than Period 7. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Which year is the building year of the house?

Dear Joe, Thank you for sharing this information. Yes, I totally agree that the Tai Su or Grand Duke is not Feng Shui but rather based on Chinese culture. You can roughly place it as a Chinese superstition. It is a grey area in terms of classifying the Grand Duke. In my opinion, I think it should be classified as a `strong' Chinese belief. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'discussion-session' suppressed 'discussion-session' suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:07 AM Subject: FS versus 'superstition'

Dear Boris, Can I confirm what you mean when you say that "After 1982 there was no major work being done on the house until 1989, and the house was finally finished in 1993 ". In 1989 onwards, can you describe what sort of of major work was done in 1989? As you have mentioned, your house can either fall within Period 6 or Period 7. One way of counterchecking is to calculate two charts: one for Period 6 and the other for Period 7. Usually, one can look at both charts and relate it to your personal experience since I assume that you should have already stayed in the house e.g. from 1994 to the present i.e. approximately 5 years already. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 11:59 PM Subject: Which year is the building year of the house?

Dear Irene, Thanks for sharing your valuable information. As there are two sides of the argument ie. some FS Masters say that the painting of the ceciling would change the Period of the home/office, from my personal work, like yourself find that most of the time, the house still does not change the period or move to a new period. So far, only in one instance did I come across the shift to the new period. In the best of my opinion, for now, I believe that we should still make two charts one for the house before and the new period and compare both charts to see if it `matches' the existing house. Thanks for your enlightenment:) Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'flying-star' suppressed suppressed> Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Does painting the whole house changes the birth date of the Experienced Feng Shui Masters, say that instead of removing the roof, one technique to change the birthdate of the house is to paint the ceciling of the house. This is akin to removing the roof or ` changing ' the roof. Other than the above, things are pretty the same year round. Warmest Regards, Cecil Hi Cecil, From the above statement it would then change the birthdate of my house from period 5 to period 7 as the whole house which included the ceiling was painted in 1988. I tried plotting the flying star chart for period 7, but it would seem to me that the flying star chart(the meaning of each combination of stars) for period 5 suits me well based on the current and past events in my life. So, I would have to stick with the period 5 flying star chart. I would say if one paints his/her ceiling in the current period but built in previous period, he/she needs to construct two charts and compare which of those charts correspond close to his/her current and past situations. Others might be affected by the current period's flying star chart when they painted the ceiling between 1984-2003 and others might not. It's scary to be applying cures or enhancements to a wrong chart. It'll be nice to hear inputs from others who have houses built in previous periods and painted ceiling in the current period. Irene To reply: mailto:flying-star.1509@forum.geomancy.net To start new topic: mailto:flying-star@forum.geomancy.net To unsubscribe and participate only via Web Forum: 1. Login to http://forum.geomancy.net/~geomancy with your account. 2. Select "Mailing List" from the welcome page. 3. Uncheck the mailing list you wish to unsubcribe, eg. "flying-star". All rights Reserved. Copyright Geomancy-Forum.Com

Dear Shelley, Thanks for bringing up this interesting question. A while back I mentioned that originally, Feng Shui is used at a macro level. At the micro level, we still look at the homes. But for the homes, it is more generalised Feng Shui. For example, in the past, we do not content with sleeping on a metal bed nor a water bed. We simply sleep on wooden beds because wood is easier to find and make use of. In a wider extent, symbols do play a part in ancient homes which are decorated with wooden panels or wooden carvings. Even the wooden Chinese antique furnitures have inlaid mother-of-pearls e.g. of leaves, flowers, fishes etc... This is not so much of Feng Shui but cultural heritage. Even porcelian have figurines of phoenix, beautiful ladies, auspicious animals. We can say that there are at least over 500 symbols and each signify certain values. For example we have the crane, the bamboo and many many more animals and designs. Some of these designs are used in Chinese homes in the hope of using them for auspicious reasons. Here, there is a distinction between Feng Shui and Symbols. As I had pointed out earlier, Feng Shui really has to do with eliminating sha Qi or poision arrows and enhancing Qi. I feel that symbols (through cultural heritage) is like a bridge and provides a visual and pleasing impact to the homes. The only thing Feng Shui and religion have in common is that to a certain degree, it gives us hope, hope of better things to come. With such expectations, we thus make an effort (consicious or unconscious) to improve our lifes. So far, the area of personalization is a new area. I guess, like you, I share the view that it is a good way to take advantage in the name of Feng Shui for the commercialisation of products. Some of these products are closer to religious belief than Feng Shui. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 3:11 PM Subject: Feng Shui Symbols

Dear Nansi and Irene, As most of us are aware, under the 20 year Flying Star analysis, Period 7 is between 1994 to 2003. Usually, if we do painting every year i.e. 1994 to 2003, it is still under Period 7. Therefore, the date of birth is really not an issue here. Experienced Feng Shui Masters, say that instead of removing the roof, one technique to change the birthdate of the house is to paint the ceciling of the house. This is akin to removing the roof or ` changing ' the roof. Other than the above, things are pretty the same year round. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'flying-star' suppressed suppressed> Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 1:07 PM Subject: Re: Does painting the whole house changes the birth date of the In a message dated 07/09/1999 6:18:05 PM, listmanager@forum.geomancy.net writes: Hi cecil, I read in one of your responses the breaking of a wall, fixing the roof and painting the ceilings of whole houses changes the birth date of the house. My grandfather gets his whole house painted inside out. Every door, ceiling, I mean everything just before the festival of light every year to welcome the new year. My question is does that mean the birth date of his houses changes every year. NO UH-OH, Now I'm confused again. I'm sure I read in a previous posting that painting the ceiling changed the birthdate of the house. Did I miss-read that? Nansi Painting never warrants a change in the birthdate of a house....only when you make major renovations i.e. tearing off the roof of your house, adding/removing a part of your house structure. To reply: mailto:flying-star.1492@forum.geomancy.net To start new topic: mailto:flying-star@forum.geomancy.net To unsubscribe and participate only via Web Forum: 1. Login to http://forum.geomancy.net/~geomancy with your account. 2. Select "Mailing List" from the welcome page. 3. Uncheck the mailing list you wish to unsubcribe, eg. "flying-star". All rights Reserved. Copyright Geomancy-Forum.Com

Dear Dr Muthu, If you are in Malaysia, my best advise is to consult a Feng Shui Practioner. This is because, even if you can calculate the Flying Star correctly, a picture perfect Flying Star report is not as important as a full Feng Shui Audit. Even under the Flying Star, it has to be used in relation to other Feng Shui anaysis e.g. the Shapes and Form and even personalised to yourself. Furthermore, in your case, it has to do more with your business location (unless it is the same as your home). In my personal opinion, Lillian Too is " ok " at Shapes and Forms because this is more `generalised' and can apply more widely. I agree with you that her Flying Star book is confusing and there are some errors in it. I am not sure if some of the charts are correct, but if you want to D.I.Y., this is the risk that you may have to take. Assuming that you can do a proper chart, the more important factor is the analysis and knowing how to cure. If one does not have a problem, one can take your time to interpret and do trial and error Feng Shui. But if one is constrainted by problems, there are two real issues:- 1. I have seen many who do lots of self cures until, they overdo it. Here, if one engages a Feng Shui expert, the expert would not only have to analyse a person's Feng Shui but under the `cures'. This is time consuming and also costly for the client. 2. The second issue is that it is much better to get a Feng Shui audit done by a respectable FS practioner and work with them to solve your problem. Since you are in Malaysia, it is certainly easier to get someone to do it for you. Warmest Regards, Cecil Lee -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'flying-star' suppressed suppressed> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 11:13 AM Subject: how to work out flying star locations - are they accurate to base one's calculations for the stars .

Dear Glyn, I guess, the Emotional Intelligence `model' under Feng Shui is not the same as the EQ model found in recent books found in the book stores:) Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed> Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 1:12 PM Subject: Deity It is the bad side of intelligence which is often affected by emotional constraints or feeling. You know that such emotion can sometimes make a person do foolish things such as blind love, etc. Similarly when you have such deities, it is suppose to mean that you have to beware not to let your emotion take control of your thinking or let others affect your thinking etc. Hope that helps. Warmest Regards Robert Lee Many thanks Glyn To reply: mailto:pillars-of-destiny.1458@forum.geomancy.net To start new topic: mailto:pillars-of-destiny@forum.geomancy.net To unsubscribe and participate only via Web Forum: 1. Login to http://forum.geomancy.net/~geomancy with your account. 2. Select "Mailing List" from the welcome page. 3. Uncheck the mailing list you wish to unsubcribe, eg. "pillars-of-destiny". All rights Reserved. Copyright Geomancy-Forum.Com

Dear Joe, Due to the scarcity of land for burial, many have turned to cremation. There are now a handful of FS Practioners skilled in the art of Yin Feng Shui or Feng Shui for the dead. I had in past written a short write-up and this is quite interesting: http://www.geomancy.net/fs/exhume.htm Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed 'pillars-of-destiny' suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 10:28 AM Subject: Some Useful and Practical Tips

Dear Mike, The most appropriate tool is the use of the I-Ching. I understand that some professional Share Companies use the I-Ching to predict the stocks i.e. they use an I-Ching model. Frankly, I don't play shares so.. you may have to find out further on this. Warmest Regards, Cecil -----Original Message----- From: Listmanager To: Recipients of 'free-advice' suppressed suppressed> Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 1:25 PM Subject: Stock option